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re: Paul Ryan's Buck(s)

Posted on 9/4/12 at 6:16 pm to
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 9/4/12 at 6:16 pm to
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I think you're grossly overestimating the power of one vote


No he's not. 1 vote turn to 2, and 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8......1,000,000...

Blue Velvet's entire argument is based on the fact that your vote doesn't count, because the state is guaranteed to Romney. Yet he wishes to convince a mass of people to not vote for Romney.

Let's imagine he is successful in converting all of us, and we spread the gospel of velvet to our friends and their friends and so on, and it catches like wildfire. None of us show up to vote.

BHO wins re-election. And that is not acceptable.
Posted by Blue Velvet
Apple butter toast is nice
Member since Nov 2009
20112 posts
Posted on 9/4/12 at 6:17 pm to
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You obviously underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers
Of course not, look at the two candidates.
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If everyone that was thinking about voting for Romney did what you say to do and either not vote or write in some guy that gets a few thousand votes, then Obama would win the state.
I'm honored that you feel I'm so influential, but I'm not. If I were we wouldn't be in this predicament in the first place.
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You have 2 options for candidates, neither of which I personally want in office, but that's your choice. NEVER underestimate the power of 1 vote. If one person doesn't vote because they don't like either candidate, and that person convinces a few people to not to vote, and then those people convince a few people, there will be alot of people not voting at all, and alot of people voting for Obama.
That is a gross exaggeration but I see what you're saying. Unfortunately, your argument is out of the realm of reality; unlike mine.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
72250 posts
Posted on 9/4/12 at 6:17 pm to
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You don't think if Gary Johnson garnered as little as 5% of the vote that he wouldn't be more popular in the GOP in 2016?


I'm going to be 100% honest with you here and tell you that I have no earthly idea who you are talking about. Bash away. I will never claim to be a well informed voter.

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Your voting record says otherwise


It may. I'm not going off voting records. I'm going off what the NRA tells me as far as gun control goes. I pay them to figure that out for me.
Posted by Blue Velvet
Apple butter toast is nice
Member since Nov 2009
20112 posts
Posted on 9/4/12 at 6:21 pm to
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Posted by Boats n Hose I still don't know who I'll vote or. It won't be Obama. It might not be Romney. I might not vote at all. I'll decide when I'm in the booth. I just don't care much anymore and don't believe one man can make a difference in the fricked up government we have. And everyday I meet people who lead me to believe the people will never be smart enough to change anything. I'll just wait around for the next mass extinction and let all the stupid fricks die off and hope the new world order does it better next time around.
fricking amen. Not sure why a board of gun lovers are putting their faith in a guy like Mitt and expecting good things. frick all these politicians.



Okay guys. Will be offline until after 9. I'll be back with more jaded, bitter comments then. Don't call me a coward... I'll be back to fight you tooth and nail.
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
40496 posts
Posted on 9/4/12 at 6:23 pm to
Man you belong on the OT. We're just some guys trying to talk about a deer!, and you bring in this bullshite. Don't make us out to be the big bad wolf when you're the one trying to blow the fricking house down! capiche, homie?
Posted by Blue Velvet
Apple butter toast is nice
Member since Nov 2009
20112 posts
Posted on 9/4/12 at 6:25 pm to
No you can. I was just being a pussy and getting pissed off at the idiots on here. Reminds of this guy I know who posted his address in the heat of the moment looking for a fight. I'll be back in a bit.
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
40496 posts
Posted on 9/4/12 at 6:26 pm to
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fricking amen. Not sure why a board of gun lovers are putting their faith in a guy like Mitt and expecting good things. frick all these politicians.


Better than putting faith in a guy like Obama and expecting nothing.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46380 posts
Posted on 9/4/12 at 6:26 pm to
Has this been posted yet?

Dem platform calls for gun control, but advocates pan language as timid

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The Democrats' approach to gun control is far too timid and needs a boost of courage to be effective, some leading gun-control advocates are charging.

The draft language of the Democrats' 2012 platform — set for a final vote this week in Charlotte, N.C. — argues that current safeguards protecting the public against gun violence are insufficient and urges "an honest and open conversation about firearms."

The document also calls for "reasonable regulation" governing guns, including laws banning assault weapons and requiring all gun sellers — not just licensed dealers — to perform background checks on potential buyers.

But while the Republicans' 2012 platform addresses such hot-button topics as concealed carry, stand-your-ground laws, high-capacity clips and the reporting of bulk long-arm sales, the Democrats' policy statement makes no mention of those thorny issues.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72250 posts
Posted on 9/4/12 at 6:27 pm to
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idiots


Care to throw out some names?
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
40496 posts
Posted on 9/4/12 at 6:30 pm to
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Care to throw out some names?


200million registered voters. He's a busy man
Posted by hashbrowns
Shitholeastan
Member since Nov 2011
2380 posts
Posted on 9/4/12 at 6:36 pm to
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Unfortunately, your argument is out of the realm of reality


Oh really? In the 2000 Presidential Elections Al Gore won New Mexico by 363 votes. Bush won Florida by 537 votes. Don't tell me a few people not voting doesn't matter.
Posted by Blue Velvet
Apple butter toast is nice
Member since Nov 2009
20112 posts
Posted on 9/4/12 at 9:27 pm to
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BourgsTheWord
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Better than putting faith in a guy like Obama and expecting nothing.
I don't know anyone dumb enough to do that. I don't hang around people like that.
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wickowick
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Has this been posted yet?

Dem platform calls for gun control, but advocates pan language as timid
Damn. That's scary. Those people are as arse backwards as Mitt Romney.
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DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Care to throw out some names?
LSU_lou, FelicianaTigerFan
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hashbrowns
Are you comparing Louisiana to New Mexico or Florida? Are you saying that Gore would have been significantly better than Bush or vice versa? Lose either way; just like today.
Posted by Slickback
Deer Stand
Member since Mar 2008
28156 posts
Posted on 9/4/12 at 9:37 pm to
I understand your sentiment, however you're hurting your own argument by making statement like "republicans are stupid" or that you hate republicans and democrats. You've just told 99.5% of the population that you hate them. Don't be surprised when they call you a troll or a hack.


I, like many, would love to see a true conservative in the white house. Romney is a moderate republican at best, but he's way more right-leaning than Obama. He'll get my vote because of that. If I were to only vote for people I 100% agree with, then I may as well go turn in my voter ID card now.
Posted by Blue Velvet
Apple butter toast is nice
Member since Nov 2009
20112 posts
Posted on 9/4/12 at 9:56 pm to
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making statement like "republicans are stupid"
Have you seen their platform? What reality are you living in?
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Don't be surprised when they call you a troll or a hack.
Well what's popular is always right.
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I, like many, would love to see a true conservative in the white house.
Yet won't vote for one.
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If I were to only vote for people I 100% agree with, then I may as well go turn in my voter ID card now.
I understand this. I've never agreed 100% with the guys I've voted for. A good question may be "where is the line drawn?" I won't vote for a guy whom I agree with on only 8% of the issues; the problem is that I agree with his opponent about 4% of the time. You'll vote for the 8%'er... I cannot make myself do that. The system is broken. "When I suggest that everyone needs give up on voting and take matters into their own hands in their personal lives, people always seem to get the impression that I am suggesting they 'do nothing'. In reality the complete opposite is true. I am suggesting that they actually get out and do something to make an impact on the problems that bother them instead of just pushing a button in an election booth, throwing the problem on some politicians lap and thinking that something is actually going to get done," says J.G. Vibes. LINK
Posted by Boats n Hose
NOLA
Member since Apr 2011
37248 posts
Posted on 9/4/12 at 10:02 pm to
Good quote

I refuse to align myself with any political party. I'm an independent thinker and consider each issue individually, not based on where one party that I agree with on other issues stands on it. I don't like the republican party. I really really don't like the democrats. Our system sucks in that it forces people to choose one or the other if they want their vote "to count"
Posted by Slickback
Deer Stand
Member since Mar 2008
28156 posts
Posted on 9/4/12 at 10:05 pm to
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Yet won't vote for one.



Show me one that can garner enough support to topple Obama and I'd vote for him in a heartbeat. For now, its Romney v. Obama and Romney>Obama, therefore he'll get my vote. The debt and economy are my #1 issues right now, and 4 more years of Obama would be crippling to our future.

Maybe I'm naive, but Romney's platform as Governor of Massachusetts will be a little different than Romney's platform as POTUS.

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Have you seen their platform? What reality are you living in?



Yes, and I've seen the Dems. Once again, I'll vote for the lesser of two evils.

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A good question may be "where is the line drawn?" I won't vote for a guy whom I agree with on only 8% of the issues; the problem is that I agree with his opponent about 4% of the time. You'll vote for the 8%'er... I cannot make myself do that. The system is broken.


There may be our difference. I agree a lot more than 8%. The system is broken, but its what we have. You start the revolution and I'll throw you my support (if I agree with > 8% of your platform).
Posted by Blue Velvet
Apple butter toast is nice
Member since Nov 2009
20112 posts
Posted on 9/4/12 at 10:14 pm to
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The debt and economy are my #1 issues right now
obviously

Don't act like one is significantly better than the other. Just different versions of shitty. We'll be at war with Iran within 8 years, for no fricking reason, and Mitt will only speed that up.
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Maybe I'm naive, but Romney's platform as Governor of Massachusetts will be a little different than Romney's platform as POTUS.
Better hope so. Hope that an old dog learned new tricks and will suddenly change philosophies over night. I'm not as optimistic; I'm a realist (possibly a cynic).
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You start the revolution and I'll throw you my support (if I agree with > 8% of your platform).
I'm trying
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87534 posts
Posted on 9/4/12 at 10:17 pm to
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You're part of the problem. I don't mean to be a dick, but you are. If you live in Louisiana and you vote for this guy instead of voicing your opinion by voting for a conservative or staying home then you are responsible for the terrible downshift this country has taken. You've lost your right to complain about politics for the next 4 years.
This is the dumbest fricking thing I've ever seen. Vote for a conservative? Any vote not for Rom is a vote for Obama. You are voting for Obama. Will not surprise me to find out you believe in orgonite and Joe Cells. You think like a 7th grader.
Posted by thanksjhester
Sonic
Member since Jun 2009
5773 posts
Posted on 9/4/12 at 10:22 pm to
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I can't afford to buy a gun if I can't get a job.
Damn straight Bourgs. This douche comes to our board stirring shite about our presidential candidate? Get a clue bv, we have already experienced 4yrs of YOUR man. Enough is enough. Its time we take our country back. In the words of Clint Eastwood you can go F^^( yourself.
Posted by Slickback
Deer Stand
Member since Mar 2008
28156 posts
Posted on 9/4/12 at 10:24 pm to
I saw you mention Johnson a couple times earlier. I'm halfway through reading his positions on issues (even though you called their stances on their campaign websites shite, I'm a little more naive), and can't say I've come across anything I disagree with.


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Don't act like one is significantly better than the other. Just different versions of shitty. We'll be at war with Iran within 8 years, for no fricking reason, and Mitt will only speed that up.


I'll go with the less shitty version of shitty. I'm actually an optimist concerning Romney's economic policy. You may be right though, the last republican president was as liberal as they come with fiscal policy.

:scary: I sure the frick hope not. To be simple, I fricking hate wars (although I understand the need at times)
Obama hasn't been the peace-loving liberal everyone expected him to be either though, with his drone attacks (including one on an American citizen) and ventures into Pakistan, and there are his broken promises to end the other two wars.
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