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re: OB Engineers: Steel Beams to Make a Bridge
Posted on 2/11/20 at 10:37 am to No Colors
Posted on 2/11/20 at 10:37 am to No Colors
You are not going to find a more economical rural/camp/farm long span bridge than a recycled railcar bridge. There is obviously fine print and details but for a 89ft, $26k installed sounds like a great price. Just the railcar and logistics/delivery is probably half of that.
You should get multiple quotes, but stick to used railcar bridge installers. Focus on the details of the install... the decking, painting, footings, etc.
You should get multiple quotes, but stick to used railcar bridge installers. Focus on the details of the install... the decking, painting, footings, etc.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 10:51 am to Mark Makers
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Down I-10 before Highland exit is a place that makes long concrete beams for bridges I’m guessing. I always wondered what they did with the off spec ones. Maybe they would sell you a couple? I met the owner a couple times, don’t remember his name, seemed like a reasonable guy.
Boykin Brothers
Posted on 2/11/20 at 10:58 am to AutoYes_Clown
quote:Man, at 9-10ft wide that's awfully narrow esp. after a few wisky drinks. Would need some HD guard rails.
recycled railcar bridge
Posted on 2/11/20 at 12:30 pm to No Colors
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From bank to bank it is about 75 feet across (and about 12-15 feet deep). I had a guy come out and quote me an 89 foot railcar bridge, installed, for $26,000.
Decide if it is worth it to you because IMHO and experience there is no cheaper long term solution.
I would also drive a few steel piles and weld to them to anchor as you will have shite soil there and lots of lateral pressure if the water ever gets high enough to reach the deck.
As you know loess will not stay put on a vertical face and washes away quickly if any turbulence is present.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 4:53 pm to cave canem
How deep does the creek get? I'd explore the culvert idea, maybe move the road where it makes more sense to do.
The footbridge/ basket with a shed for an ATV is a solid idea also.
The footbridge/ basket with a shed for an ATV is a solid idea also.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 7:20 pm to No Colors
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Ok. I think I know what a truss is. But I'm not entirely sure what a truss is....
With all due respect, if you don’t know what a truss is you probably have no business building a bridge yourself. I mean this isn’t a walk path over a pond. You don’t want this thing collapsing while you’re in a vehicle driving across. Death is a shitty consequence for saving a little cash.
Just looking out for ya, OP.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 7:34 pm to No Colors
I'm no engineer, but I am a redneck that likes to build shite. How about a suspension bridge?. You may want to look at something with less carrying capacity that would handle a SXS and not a tractor, that should keep the cost down. In any event, good luck.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 8:38 pm to bayou choupique
That was the 3rd one - acrow.
Bailey and acrow are like a million pieces - not a long term set it / forget it solution
Bailey and acrow are like a million pieces - not a long term set it / forget it solution
Posted on 2/11/20 at 8:56 pm to eng08
The loggers where we used to hunt built a bridge with big red oak logs, pushed an apron/peninsula etc. out into the bayou to shorten the span. Is a navigable waterway but they Evidently dngaf. Prob 40-50 feet?
Posted on 2/11/20 at 10:34 pm to AlxTgr
That’s the standard decking used in plants. Should be pretty easy to find. I’ll ask at work.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:29 pm to No Colors
You could use some used dredge pipe (27") as your beams, then place wooden mats across it.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:23 pm to bbvdd
Was in the forestry/timber/logging industry for 43 years. Would never attempt to cross an obstacle over 50’. I preferred culverts, logs and fill first. Sweet gums were found to be the best trees for crossing a span. They are very long and straight, are slightly flexible. They make the best railroad ties because of their
Flexibility. Then we would board the span. I always wondered if creosote stadium poles would be good for a long crossing. Then board. A large stadium pole could have 20-30 feet laying on each side of the obstacle. I have no idea of the cost. Just a thought. Also some sort of cable bridge (ATV or walking only). I have seen these used for access over long/wide obstacles. Just walk.
Flexibility. Then we would board the span. I always wondered if creosote stadium poles would be good for a long crossing. Then board. A large stadium pole could have 20-30 feet laying on each side of the obstacle. I have no idea of the cost. Just a thought. Also some sort of cable bridge (ATV or walking only). I have seen these used for access over long/wide obstacles. Just walk.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:53 pm to yattan
big culvert and concrete on upstream side are your friends.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:59 pm to Mark Makers
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Boykin Brothers
I don't believe Boykin makes girders, at least not that long. They make precast concrete elements and piles, but I don't ever remember them making girders.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 2:11 pm to Boudreaux35
they absolutely make girders.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 12:08 am to No Colors
Folks, y’all are comparing a rail car bridge at 26k, and 2 flat spans on 12” WF beam to cross 75 feet. At that price point at $650 per 50’, if there is anyone around there that can cut and weld appropriately, for less than half the cost, he can make a hell of a crossing to easily span 75 feet. Quit thinking flat spans. A straight gable obviously wouldn’t work very well (depending on pitch), but he can build a modified truss using a fairly flat gambrel style shape. Using tensile strength of a 12” beam below the gambrel spanning 50’, you’d be able to make a pretty dang decent bridge. Even if he had to run 3 spans. It’s still far cheaper than the rail car.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 12:31 am to No Colors
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Ok. I think I know what a truss is. But I'm not entirely sure what a truss is....
Ever been to a Walmart and looked at the ceiling?
Posted on 2/13/20 at 4:20 am to finchmeister08
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been to a Walmart and looked at the ceiling?
Yes. Of course. But I'm having a hard time transferring ceiling trusses into a bridge. I remember those old school bridges I used to see on two lane roads as a kid.
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