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Number of shots fired for handgun proficiency
Posted on 9/8/18 at 11:36 am
Posted on 9/8/18 at 11:36 am
Is there a generally accepted approximate number of practice shots fired for the attainment of basic handgun proficiency? Or is this a dumb question? TIA.
ETA: military standards?
ETA: military standards?
This post was edited on 9/8/18 at 11:49 am
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Posted on 9/8/18 at 11:42 am to Stingray
How many do you have to shoot to get your CHL? I remember shooting less than a box but I may be wrong.
I’d say a couple hundred...
I’d say a couple hundred...
Posted on 9/8/18 at 11:50 am to Tbonepatron
I think CHL is 36 and you have to get them in the silhouette at different distances up to 15 ft(?) .
Posted on 9/8/18 at 12:02 pm to Stingray
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Is there a generally accepted approximate number of practice shots fired for the attainment of basic handgun proficiency?
Quality of shot > Volume of shot
Posted on 9/8/18 at 12:06 pm to Stingray
Shoot until you're comfortable shooting. Then, think about taking a class or two. You should be at a couple thousand rounds by that point (classes are typically 3-500rds).
That's all with one gun, of course. Each gun shoots differently
That's all with one gun, of course. Each gun shoots differently
Posted on 9/8/18 at 12:10 pm to Stingray
Shoot until you feel pretty good about it, that's my advice.
Just like anything else, you can be as good as you want to be, within reason. You just have to work at it, maybe go to a local range and ask for pointers and coaching?
I'm not a great pistol shot, by any means, but I keep working on it.
I am a guy that likes shooting at shite though, so I don't mind.
Just like anything else, you can be as good as you want to be, within reason. You just have to work at it, maybe go to a local range and ask for pointers and coaching?
I'm not a great pistol shot, by any means, but I keep working on it.
I am a guy that likes shooting at shite though, so I don't mind.
Posted on 9/8/18 at 12:35 pm to Hammertime
I was seeing online that they are selling 9mm at 500 and 1000 rds. Guess maybe just get 1000 fmj.
Posted on 9/8/18 at 12:40 pm to Stingray
Don't forget the ear plugs.
Posted on 9/8/18 at 12:48 pm to Stingray
If it's a new gun, I'd hold off on getting 1000rds right off the bat. Shoot a couple of hundred rounds of various ammo through it to see if everything works well
Posted on 9/8/18 at 1:28 pm to auggie
quote:Yeah, it takes a little bit to understand how each gun handles, and the mechanics involved. Sometimes trigger pull can cause muzzle drift, etc.
Shoot until you feel pretty good about it, that's my advice.
Just like anything else, you can be as good as you want to be, within reason. You just have to work at it,
I own a few different pistols, and my son likes to shoot them as much as I do. What I tend to teach him is-
don't chase the hits around. Fire off a mag or so (5 rds at a time is good), concentrating on aiming at the same point on the target. Keep doing that until your groups are tight, regardless of where they are in relation to the target.
That means your grip and pull are becoming consistent.
Once you get tight groups, then start trying to bring them onto the bullseye.
Posted on 9/8/18 at 2:28 pm to Stingray
While volume is important, it’s not as important as having someone teach you the fundamentals first. You can shoot 10k rounds incorrectly and still not be a good shot.
Posted on 9/8/18 at 2:41 pm to Stingray
Its one of those things you cant put a number on. Some people are naturals, some people never get good at it.
Safety safety safety.
Safety safety safety.
Posted on 9/8/18 at 3:46 pm to Stingray
Depends on who is instructing you and your hand eye coordination
Posted on 9/8/18 at 4:08 pm to Stingray
I have shot about 3500 rounds through my Sheild and I still suck arse.
Posted on 9/8/18 at 6:05 pm to Purple Spoon
All depends on your mechanics. My wife was a much more natural shot with a snub nose .38. But hated the way a semi auto jumped in her hands with the slide action. I prefer the trigger on my XD to the long pull on a revolver. I got really good at 10 yards several years ago. Used to go shooting for a long period every other month. We’d spend several hours out there. Just slowly working on things at different distances. Last time I shot has been several months back and I was still proficient. It’s kind of like riding a bike. You may not be an expert when you get rusty but it doesn’t take long to get it back.
Posted on 9/9/18 at 1:31 pm to Boston911
quote:Quantity is relatively insignificant. It's certainly not a measure of competency. Shooting a handgun is very different from shooting a rifle or shotgun.
it’s not as important as having someone teach you the fundamentals first. You can shoot 10k rounds incorrectly and still not be a good shot.
The OP didn't say what pistol he bought -- some will fall apart well before 10k rounds.
Assuming the OP bought a quality firearm, he needs to find a good instructor who can teach him how to shoot. Then, those subsequent 1000's of rounds should serve to embed solid techniques into his "muscle memory" (neural pathways).
Most handgun owners never bother to seek out an instructor. Their "training" seems to come primarily from watching TV & movies --- and they usually have no concept of what competency really is.
Google Dunning-Kruger Effect
This post was edited on 9/9/18 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 9/9/18 at 3:37 pm to Purple Spoon
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I have shot about 3500 rounds through my Sheild and I still suck arse.
Then sell you fricking gun before you kill an innocent person.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 10:19 am to dawg23
quote:
Quantity is relatively insignificant. It's certainly not a measure of competency. Shooting a handgun is very different from shooting a rifle or shotgun.
The OP didn't say what pistol he bought -- some will fall apart well before 10k rounds.
Assuming the OP bought a quality firearm, he needs to find a good instructor who can teach him how to shoot. Then, those subsequent 1000's of rounds should serve to embed solid techniques into his "muscle memory" (neural pathways).
Most handgun owners never bother to seek out an instructor. Their "training" seems to come primarily from watching TV & movies --- and they usually have no concept of what competency really is.
Google Dunning-Kruger Effect
Glock 43 can take a few thousand rounds?
What about youtube videos? Cheaper.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 10:30 am to Stingray
We shot 50 rounds. This was at Precision in BR.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 2:53 pm to Stingray
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Glock 43 can take a few thousand rounds?
I wouldn't worry about wearing out a G43. Now the Ravens and Lorcins might be a different matter.
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What about youtube videos? Cheaper.
Which youtube video? Any of the old ones by Gomez will be good stuff. Plenty (probably 50%) of the ones that are up nowadays are seriously f'd up.
Who is too cheap to spend $100 for a lesson where (a) the student is shown how to shoot efficiently and accurately and (b) is given correction/critique when he fails to understand/apply specific elements of shooting? Most people will spend way more than that in ammo just trying to figure out the stuff they don't know -- and a lot of them (based on what I see during just about any trip to the range) are unlikely to get it right by themselves.
I have very little time nowadays to devote to giving individual lessons, but when I do have time it's usually a "soccer mom" who's never touched a handgun (but has suddenly become aware that there are bad people living in this country). I give every one of them a 100% money back guarantee that they will be consistently putting their shots in a 3" circle at the end of the lesson. (One lesson - not multiple lessons). Surprisingly (to them -- not to me), every one of them (over 100 women) has able to do this, and every one of them has apparently considered it to be money well-spent.
Tom Givens is credited with saying shooting a handgun is less intricate than playing a violin, but it's a lot more complex than learning to use a shovel. (And there's not as much potential downside to being a lousy fiddle player).
Obviously YMMV. Just my $.02 worth.
This post was edited on 9/11/18 at 4:30 pm
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