re: New spotted seatrout regulations effective 11/20/23

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But, why? Seems a bit extreme

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My thoughts as well. I believe its mostly lost of habitat that accounts for the lower # of fish, and not the over fishing. Is redfish population lower , yes, is there less habitat to support the redfish , yes. Same ratio of fish to land, just less of both.

Chandeleur Island trips will be impacted.

Yep, smartest guy HE knows??

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I believe its mostly lost of habitat that accounts for the lower # of fish, and not the over fishing. Is redfish population lower , yes, is there less habitat to support the redfish , yes. Same ratio of fish to land, just less of both.

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What redfish habitat has been lost in, say, the last 20 years in LA?

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My thoughts as well. I believe its mostly lost of habitat that accounts for the lower # of fish, and not the over fishing. Is redfish population lower , yes, is there less habitat to support the redfish , yes. Same ratio of fish to land, just less of both.

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This is kinda making the argument for regs. We have less land than before (that’s not gonna get better) and way less fish. Add more fishing pressure than ever and something has to give. The only thing we have control over is how many fish get harvested by rod and reel/commercial fishing.

I dont live there, its an honest question. I thought i read that saltwater was encroaching which would be more habitat.

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This is kinda making the argument for regs. We have less land than before (that’s not gonna get better) and way less fish. Add more fishing pressure than ever and something has to give. The only thing we have control over is how many fish get harvested by rod and reel/commercial fishing.

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sort of, but I believe the rod and reel guys dont put a dent in the reds. the pop is only going down due to Habitat lost.

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And pogey boats roam free but the rec guys get fricked. Seems legit.

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Jesus man, is it that hard to think for yourself? These deflections are just getting aggravating at this point.
They proposed an NOI to push them back 1 mile and there are things in the works to make it even harder for them in the future. It’s gonna be a slow crawl to fight against an industry making that much money.
The commercial red fishing industry is nearly (or entirely?) gone in LA
We have two realistic levers to pull:
-Pogey boats
-Rec fisherman
It’s time for rec fisherman to grow up and take some personal accountability.
I care about trout infinitely more than redfish and I’ll even accept there are good arguments on both sides of the trout regs.
There are no good arguments against the dire situation redfish are in and how the population would benefit from tighter regs. You can keep parroting the 3-4 overused, reductionistic, baseless arguments you read on your Facebook groups but it doesn’t make it true.

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I dont live there, its an honest question

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I get it. I just laughed because the erosion down here is very agressive. The units of erosion being used vary depending on article but they are all consistent that there is pretty large land loss. I fish Delacroix a lot with a guy who's fished it weekly for over 35 years. Every time we go out he points out all the land loss "This area used have trees 10 yrs ago", "These were 3 seperate bays not long ago", etc... He is still taken aback every time we're running in and it's sad to hear him point out what used to be and his prognosis of what it will be in 5-10 years.

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just laughed because the erosion down here is very agressive. The units of erosion being used vary depending on article but they are all consistent that there is pretty large land loss.

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It’s awful, but that’s why we need large scale dredging operations to help fix things, not blasting areas with fresh water with a little sediment mixed in.