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re: Morganza Spillway

Posted on 5/30/19 at 11:25 am to
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 5/30/19 at 11:25 am to
quote:

would it be deep enough for ship traffic?
They haven't even found the bottom in some places.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 11:26 am to
quote:

The Old River Control Structure was finished in 1963. It’s purpose was to keep the Mississippi River in its current path. Baton Rouge and New Orleans were already along the river as well as industry.


Can you not see any logic in what I am saying?



He’s talking about the levee system built after the 1927 flood.

It does seem at least debatable at this point whether that was the right response to flooding.

It did allow development (over-development?) of Baton Rouge and especially New Orleans, but is that a good thing? And even if so, was it worth the cost?

Is it the reason we are losing coastline?
If the river changes course anyway now, it will certainly be seen as an enormous mistake. Right?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86539 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 11:28 am to
Just found this instructional because I see a lot of confusion over the basic layout.

This post was edited on 5/30/19 at 11:39 am
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 11:30 am to
Bad link
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
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Posted on 5/30/19 at 11:31 am to
This is what he linked

Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 5/30/19 at 11:33 am to
I’m not sure I see a way to truly adapt and use this area without the levees. Maybe I am obtuse.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86539 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 11:39 am to
Thanks. I accidentally hit quote.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 11:47 am to
Someone asked about Gibson the other day??

Efforts are underway to block the Tabor Canal to prevent additional backwater flooding in the Gibson area.


LINK
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13507 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 11:52 am to
Great, so now the government is blocking canals for rich landowners? With MY tax dollars? I bet CCA is behind this.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/30/19 at 12:03 pm to
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So if left alone to take the path of the Atchafalya, would it be deep enough for ship traffic?

EVENTUALLY it will. But how long would that take?




Prior to the ORCS the Atchafalaya was one of the worlds deepest rivers due to its slope, it is almost like you live in a world devoid of facts despite having all of mankinds knowledge at your fingertips.

If you dont feel like reading the whole thing start about half way down.

LINK


Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
10723 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 12:18 pm to
There’s some salty folks up in here today
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61451 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 12:49 pm to
i wish we had google earth historic photos from the 15th century on....i'd love to see the meandering playout in photos
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

He’s talking about the levee system built after the 1927 flood.


It goes much farther back than that, the ORCS sealed off the LAST remaining distributary of the MS, there were far more of them.

Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
33902 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 1:00 pm to
cave, that's a great read....
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13507 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

Prior to the ORCS the Atchafalaya was one of the worlds deepest rivers due to its slope,


I'm guessing the river would flush out the sediment at mouth of Main and Wax Deltas. The problem is the water is only 15-20' deep out to around 20 miles offshore. It would take a while for it to be a viable deep water port unless they did something very creative.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 1:13 pm to
That’s the issue with the Mississippi. In the study put out a few years ago Changing Course or whatever, a shorter route from around myrtle grove straight south to the gulf was depicted. But you would still have to dredge a deep arse channel and maintain it the whole way to deep water versus having the MS river velocity helping self scour to an extent.
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 1:16 pm to
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i wish we had google earth historic photos from the 15th century on....i'd love to see the meandering playout in photos


they have some pretty awesome hydrographic maps of it
Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
8907 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 1:35 pm to
I’m new here. Can someone explain to me the possible ramifications if the Morganza spillway is not opened? Are we talking seepage causing levees to give way further south?
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/30/19 at 1:40 pm to
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 5/30/19 at 1:41 pm to
Spill way topped

Pressure on levees

Levees topped
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