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re: Mega Cab transmission is toast at 46,000 miles (new questions pg 7)
Posted on 4/24/12 at 9:47 am to Hammertime
Posted on 4/24/12 at 9:47 am to Hammertime
Just talked with the dealership who swears up and down that the stock 68rfe is a great tranny. Says he cant say for sure but he is 90% certain that the mods did not cause failure it was just an extremely rare failure and that driving in 4 Hi like she did contributed.
He also claims that the exhaust mods I did if caught can come with a 25,000 fine?????? Also claims he would be fined heavily if he inspected the truck. Basically wants me to go back to stock and put a rebuilt 68rfe in with a 3 yr/100 k warranty.
What to to do, what to do?
He also claims that the exhaust mods I did if caught can come with a 25,000 fine?????? Also claims he would be fined heavily if he inspected the truck. Basically wants me to go back to stock and put a rebuilt 68rfe in with a 3 yr/100 k warranty.
What to to do, what to do?
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Posted on 4/24/12 at 9:48 am to Hammertime
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I gotta get it to completely go out before the damn warranty is up
That could be fun. Just keep trying to see if you can do a burnout in 4x4
Posted on 4/24/12 at 10:13 am to Bleeding purple
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Just talked with the dealership who swears up and down that the stock 68rfe is a great tranny.
It's probably not the best in the world, but it's far from the worst.
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He also claims that the exhaust mods I did if caught can come with a 25,000 fine?????? Also claims he would be fined heavily if he inspected the truck
Doubt it.
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Basically wants me to go back to stock and put a rebuilt 68rfe in with a 3 yr/100 k warranty.
Honestly wouldn't be a bad decision...but if you do that, I'd get a new programmer or pull off the programmer completely.
Posted on 4/24/12 at 11:03 am to Boats n Hose
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That could be fun. Just keep trying to see if you can do a burnout in 4x4
Yeah, it has been slipping(letting motor spin up), not downshifting, and the TC wont lock up until somewhere around 60mph in 5th gear and it is very noticable. Unfortunately the Ford techs dont know how to diagnose their way out of a paper bag w/o it throwing a code.
Electronic info = worse mechanics.
I had a buddy just like that, couldnt problem solve without codes. Said nothing was wrong if it didnt have the CEL on
Posted on 4/24/12 at 11:12 am to jordan21210
I just hate to lose that 5-6 mpg I gained especially conisdering i am just now breaking even on the cost of the mods.
You think I could sell the system and programer back to the guy that installed it if I decided to go stock again?
You think I could sell the system and programer back to the guy that installed it if I decided to go stock again?
Posted on 4/24/12 at 11:15 am to Bleeding purple
If you plan on keeping the truck for a long time, i'd go with the most heavy duty thing reasonable.
Posted on 4/24/12 at 11:17 am to Bleeding purple
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I just hate to lose that 5-6 mpg I gained especially conisdering i am just now breaking even on the cost of the mods.
You think I could sell the system and programer back to the guy that installed it if I decided to go stock again?
Yeah I hear you. I'm just thinking that the programmer is messing with the TCM on your truck somehow, someway. If you go ask around on some forums, they'd probably be much more knowledgeable and be able to diagnose your truck better. If you bought the tuner from a retail store, I doubt they'd take it back. You could sell it via classifieds on a Cummins or Dodge forum fairly easily though. I've always had luck over on dodgetalk.com...they've got a pretty big classifieds section.
Posted on 4/24/12 at 11:42 am to Bleeding purple
The problem is that of you get rid of the programmer and not the exhaust, you will be throwing codes left and right. Your truck won't run right. You need something to clear the trouble codes.
You should be able to sell it easily if you decide to. I have the edge juice with attitude and it has worked very well.
You should be able to sell it easily if you decide to. I have the edge juice with attitude and it has worked very well.
This post was edited on 4/24/12 at 11:44 am
Posted on 4/24/12 at 11:45 am to DieselTiger1
no if I get rid of anything, Im dumping it all. I still have the stock exhaust parts.
Posted on 4/24/12 at 11:46 am to Bleeding purple
Nooooooooooooooooo
Posted on 4/24/12 at 11:47 am to Bleeding purple
I have heard of people gutting the stock exhaust and leaving it on with positive results. That may be an option to keep some of the added mpg's.
Posted on 4/24/12 at 1:22 pm to DieselTiger1
possible alternative answer, trade in the mega cab for a quad and go back to gas.
Posted on 4/24/12 at 1:28 pm to Bleeding purple
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trade in the mega cab for a quad and go back to gas.
You will never be happy doing that. Gas? My arse.
Posted on 4/24/12 at 1:47 pm to Bleeding purple
I've heard that removing the DPF is actually a federal offense and could come with a hefty fine but I've yet to hear of anyone ever actually being fined/accused/charged.
Best way to look at it is do you plan to keep the truck a long time or get something new in a few years?
If keeping it for a long time, go with the aftermarket transmission, keep the exhaust and tuner. Enjoy many more trouble free miles over the life of the truck as well as the added mileage.
If you plan on getting rid of it within the next couple years go with the stock tranny, ditch all the aftermarket stuff and run it as is. You'll get less mileage but when it comes to sell most buyers of used trucks are turned off by aftermarket performance parts on a diesel. An aftermarket transmission will just be a red flag to them.
Best way to look at it is do you plan to keep the truck a long time or get something new in a few years?
If keeping it for a long time, go with the aftermarket transmission, keep the exhaust and tuner. Enjoy many more trouble free miles over the life of the truck as well as the added mileage.
If you plan on getting rid of it within the next couple years go with the stock tranny, ditch all the aftermarket stuff and run it as is. You'll get less mileage but when it comes to sell most buyers of used trucks are turned off by aftermarket performance parts on a diesel. An aftermarket transmission will just be a red flag to them.
Posted on 4/24/12 at 1:49 pm to fishfighter
Never really wanted or needed a diesel. I wanted and bought a mega cab for the interior space due to my boys feet hitting the back of my seat while they were in their car seats in all other vehicles. Unfortunately, the mega cab with the hemi got 8 in the city and 10 hwy so I traded up to the diesel.
Now the boys are ready to go to booster seats which allow them to scoot back more so I may not need all the extra space. We already have a suburban that we use for long drives/traveling. 90% of the time my truck only has me in it.
with the a little help on another board I now have this:
Sec. 203. (a) The following acts and the causing thereof are prohibited-
(3)(A) for any person to remove or render inoperative any device or element of design installed on or in a motor vehicle or motor vehicle engine in compliance with regulations under this title prior to its sale and delivery to the ultimate purchaser, or for any person knowingly to remove or render inoperative any such device or element of design after such sale and delivery to the ultimate purchaser; or
(B) for any person to manufacture or sell, or offer to sell, or install, any part or component intended for use with, or as part of, any motor vehicle or motor vehicle engine, where a principal effect of the part or component is to bypass, defeat, or render inoperative any device or element of design installed on or in a motor vehicle or motor vehicle engine in compliance with regulations under this title, and where the person knows or should know that such part or component is being offered for sale or installed for such use or put to such use;”
Section 205 talks about the penalties that can be assessed for such actions:
SEC. 205. CIVIL PENALTIES.
(a) Violations.- Any person who violates sections 203(a)(1), 203(a)(4), or 203(a)(5) or any manufacturer or dealer who violates section 203(a)(3)(A) shall be subject to a civil penalty of not more than $25,000. Any person other than a manufacturer or dealer who violates section 203(a)(3)(A) or any person who violates section 203(a)(3)(B) shall be subject to a civil penalty of not more than $2,500. Any such violation with respect to paragraph (1),(3)(A), or (4) of section 203(a) shall constitute a separate offense with respect to each motor vehicle or motor vehicle engine. Any such violation with respect to section 203(a)(3)(B) shall constitute a separate offense with respect to each part or component. Any person who violates section 203(a)(2) shall be subject to a civil penalty of not more than $25,000 per day of violation.
Now the boys are ready to go to booster seats which allow them to scoot back more so I may not need all the extra space. We already have a suburban that we use for long drives/traveling. 90% of the time my truck only has me in it.
with the a little help on another board I now have this:
Sec. 203. (a) The following acts and the causing thereof are prohibited-
(3)(A) for any person to remove or render inoperative any device or element of design installed on or in a motor vehicle or motor vehicle engine in compliance with regulations under this title prior to its sale and delivery to the ultimate purchaser, or for any person knowingly to remove or render inoperative any such device or element of design after such sale and delivery to the ultimate purchaser; or
(B) for any person to manufacture or sell, or offer to sell, or install, any part or component intended for use with, or as part of, any motor vehicle or motor vehicle engine, where a principal effect of the part or component is to bypass, defeat, or render inoperative any device or element of design installed on or in a motor vehicle or motor vehicle engine in compliance with regulations under this title, and where the person knows or should know that such part or component is being offered for sale or installed for such use or put to such use;”
Section 205 talks about the penalties that can be assessed for such actions:
SEC. 205. CIVIL PENALTIES.
(a) Violations.- Any person who violates sections 203(a)(1), 203(a)(4), or 203(a)(5) or any manufacturer or dealer who violates section 203(a)(3)(A) shall be subject to a civil penalty of not more than $25,000. Any person other than a manufacturer or dealer who violates section 203(a)(3)(A) or any person who violates section 203(a)(3)(B) shall be subject to a civil penalty of not more than $2,500. Any such violation with respect to paragraph (1),(3)(A), or (4) of section 203(a) shall constitute a separate offense with respect to each motor vehicle or motor vehicle engine. Any such violation with respect to section 203(a)(3)(B) shall constitute a separate offense with respect to each part or component. Any person who violates section 203(a)(2) shall be subject to a civil penalty of not more than $25,000 per day of violation.
This post was edited on 4/24/12 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 4/24/12 at 1:54 pm to Bleeding purple
Damn. The EPA is serious about decreasing gas mileage to save the planet.
Posted on 4/24/12 at 1:57 pm to Boats n Hose
No kidding. I just had the discussion with my wife about this.
Her: "I don't like it because it is illegal; ethically we are setting a bad example for the boys"
Me: "It is stupidly illegal. Ethically I should be standing strong against the tyranny of a misguided governmental agency"
Her: "I don't like it because it is illegal; ethically we are setting a bad example for the boys"
Me: "It is stupidly illegal. Ethically I should be standing strong against the tyranny of a misguided governmental agency"
Posted on 4/24/12 at 2:02 pm to Bleeding purple
I never quite understood the EPA's logic with all this exhaust emmissions shite. Let me get this straight...they think that my 7.3 getting 22mpg and blowing little to no smoke is less enviromentally friendly than the 6.4 diesel getting 12mpg and pouring unicorn farts out the exhaust? 
Posted on 4/24/12 at 2:04 pm to YOURADHERE
Posted on 4/24/12 at 2:04 pm to Bleeding purple
They are so damn stupid 
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