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re: MASSIVE Western Diamondback

Posted on 7/19/24 at 2:07 pm to
Posted by jake wade
North LA
Member since Oct 2007
2344 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 2:07 pm to
Do you release them?
Posted by moe1967
South Louisiana
Member since Jul 2023
316 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 2:09 pm to
Dude, you're crazy!

Law of Averages says your luck will definitely run out one day.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
38783 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 2:33 pm to
Now frick that, y’all.

Living Rattlesnakes is when we draw the line.
Posted by Dave_O
Member since Apr 2018
1209 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 3:09 pm to
What does something that size weigh? 8-10lbs?
Posted by bengalman
In da Country
Member since Feb 2007
3996 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 5:00 pm to
That's a big mofo and a BIG nope to handling that bastard!
Posted by roobedoo
hall summit
Member since Jun 2008
1273 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 6:07 pm to
In your first two pics, the snake had plenty of room to wheel around for a hit. Was that not a concern?
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7952 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 7:35 pm to
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In your first two pics, the snake had plenty of room to wheel around for a hit. Was that not a concern?


It’s a concern as far as how far I’ll go, in the sense that I let that Black-tail get a lot closer than I let that WDB get. You have to read the snake’s attitude and body language. All 3 of our much smaller WDBs on this trip were very pissy, strikey, and rattled the whole time. This monster did not rattle once and at no point did it get defensive or aggressive. It just wanted to proceed on its way. The guy I was with the rest of the trip had recently put one this size around his neck - I probably could have with this one, but I certainly wasn’t going to.
Same with the Black-tails. A couple rattled constantly and had their eyes locked on you the whole time so with them I did little or no handling, but the first Black-tail we got was super chill. I free handled that one more than any other venomous snake I’ve handled. 99% chance I could have free handled that one just like a non-venomous snake. I didn’t go that far, but let that one get well within strike range with very little concern.
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7952 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 7:36 pm to
quote:

How do you go about finding properties to search? Are you using public lands or getting access to private?


All on public lands.

quote:

Don't ask for sympathy when he buries those fangs in your arse!


I certainly won’t…and eventually one certainly will.

quote:

Do you release them?


Yes - every one is released unharmed where we found it.

quote:

What does something that size weigh? 8-10lbs?


This guy was HEFTY. I’d say easily 10-15 lbs. The road where we got him had so many small rabbits running around, it was unreal. We were constantly dodging baby bunnies on the road. The diamondbacks there are feasting. My friend recently got 8 WDBs in 1 night there.
This post was edited on 7/19/24 at 7:44 pm
Posted by Bigsampson
Fort Worth
Member since Apr 2017
446 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 8:34 pm to
If you are ever south of Abeline, send me a message. I have 250 acres w some wdb on it. Welcome to catch as many as you want, as long as you take them w you. Rehome, boots, hatbands, pets. Don’t care. Just gone.
I can prob leverage another 500 to 1000 acres as well w advanced notice.
Posted by reggierayreb
Member since Nov 2012
19136 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 8:54 pm to










This post was edited on 7/19/24 at 9:18 pm
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
10103 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 10:24 pm to
I have never heard of blacktail rattlesnakes, that's beautiful.
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7952 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 1:30 am to
Thanks, might take you up on that offer next time I’m passing through.
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7952 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 1:36 am to
Yea, those black-tails really are pretty snakes - it was my first time seeing them in person.







Posted by 308
the backwoods of Mississippi
Member since Sep 2020
3109 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 8:01 am to
@TigrrrDad,

On your western excursions, have you ever come across a mojave green rattlesnake?

They have a pretty fearsome reputation for the toxicity of their venom, from what I've read.
Posted by Tr33fiddy
Hog Jaw, Arkansas (it exists)
Member since Aug 2023
1954 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 10:44 am to
Man I use to love handling snakes. Thing is my reflexes are not what they once were. Last pigmy I picked up I had a fang rub on my fingernail. Be careful old man ??

Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7952 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 10:47 am to
quote:

On your western excursions, have you ever come across a mojave green rattlesnake? They have a pretty fearsome reputation for the toxicity of their venom, from what I've read.


This was my first trip out West and we didn’t get any this time. You’re right - they can be 10-50x more lethal than a Western Diamondback. Interestingly, there are major regional differences in their venom type. There’s a type A venom that has minimal localized hemorrhagic effects so initially appears less severe, but has severe neurological effects so it’s much more potent. The type B venom has more localized effects like most pit vipers but is less lethal.
Posted by lsubuddy
houma, la
Member since Jul 2014
4957 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 1:38 pm to
Damnnn, hope you enjoy the boots , know I would
Posted by Wavefan
St. Tammany
Member since Mar 2005
263 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 2:22 pm to
TigrrDad - We share a passion for herping, but I have not reached the point (may not ever) where I handle the venomous ones other than with a snake hook. I envy your confidence in sensing the "mood" of a snake. Hope someday we cross paths, maybe on the Honey Island roads, though I don't get out there as much as I used to.

For those that don't understand, you either have a fascination with snakes or not. No real explanation. If you do, you want to learn about them and be where they are to see what they do. My childhood dream was to be a herpetologist, but like being a cowboy or a fireman, life goes in directions you may not see when you're 10 years old. At least it can be an avocation.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
4686 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

they can be 10-50x more lethal




Did you mean 10-50%?


Seems like 1000% more lethal would be probably death and 5000% more would be certain death.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
45209 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 3:13 pm to
Do you have health insurance?
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