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Louisiana Flounder Fishing Closed 10/15 to 11/30 Officially Official

Posted on 7/20/22 at 3:54 pm
Posted by YOURADHERE
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 3:54 pm
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An annual closed season for the recreational and commercial harvest of Southern Flounder from October 15 through November 30 of each year has been finalized. This statewide closure for Southern Flounder is for all sectors and all gear types, including any flounder caught as bycatch in any other fishery. Exemptions that previously existed for southern flounder caught as bycatch on a shrimping trip are no longer applicable. The Louisiana Wildlife and Fisheries Commission (LWFC) was granted the authority by the Legislature to modify the shrimping bycatch exemption if the flounder stock is overfished and/or undergoing overfishing.



Glad to see they're atleast going after the commercial sector keeping them as bycatch, I've read that was a much bigger issue than recreational.
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 4:01 pm to
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Glad to see they're atleast going after the commercial sector keeping them as bycatch, I've read that was a much bigger issue than recreational.


Yep. The shrimpers would “accidentally” catch them when they were “shrimping”. Come back to the dock with 10 lbs of shrimp and a thousand flounder.

This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 4:02 pm
Posted by MeatHead1313
Member since Aug 2019
265 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 4:04 pm to
That's going to piss off the Big Lake guides and the Texas baws that come over to catch easy limits.
Also glad they addressed the commercial sector.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 4:05 pm to
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Exemptions that previously existed for southern flounder caught as bycatch on a shrimping trip are no longer applicable.
So does that mean just for during the 1.5 month closed season? Or does this mean shrimpers can't keep flounder bycatch at all anymore? Hopefully the latter
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 4:09 pm to
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So does that mean just for during the 1.5 month closed season?


probably...but this is when they would hypothetically be catching the most given its when the flounder make their migration.

ETA: This is the time when almost everybody in LA catches all of their flounder for the year
This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 4:11 pm
Posted by MeatHead1313
Member since Aug 2019
265 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 4:09 pm to
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So does that mean just for during the 1.5 month closed season? Or does this mean shrimpers can't keep flounder bycatch at all anymore? Hopefully the latter


Sounds like it's just for the closed season unfortunately
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
72111 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 5:06 pm to
The recreational market has negligible impact on any salt water fish populations besides bow fishing reds.

Commercial, guides and habitat loss are why our coastal fisheries are going to shite.

My brother caught a fricking gaftop in the spillway a few weeks ago. It's like I'm taking crazy pills.
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
16562 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 5:33 pm to
It's a start. Figured we would see them just crack down on recreational. They should not even do this and not let commercial fisherman keep any year round.
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 5:35 pm to
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Yep. The shrimpers would “accidentally” catch them when they were “shrimping”. Come back to the dock with 10 lbs of shrimp and a thousand flounder.

so throwing brine dead flounder over the side will help?
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 5:38 pm to
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It's a start. Figured we would see them just crack down on recreational. They should not even do this and not let commercial fisherman keep any year round.


This is how most states operate (punish rec fishermen but not the commercials) not just LA. At least this one takes a stab at the trawlers that do 99.9% of the harvest. I wish Georgia and South Carolina would do this too. If the random dude in a jonboat can't keep a flounder, then the multi-million dollar seafood trawler can't keep them either. That's what's fair.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 7:22 pm to
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Louisiana Flounder Fishing Closed 10/15 to 11/30 Officially Official


i guess this is during the spawn migration when its too easy to find large groups gathered in concentrated areas.

commercial net fishermen should never be allowed to keep any fish they catch for any reason year-round.

at least they are using equal restrictions for commercial and recreational fishermen so maybe this is truly about conservation.

but its hard to trust them when they lie so much about the real reasons and the data used for most of the restrictions they put in place
Posted by bigbuckdj
Member since Sep 2011
1989 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 7:32 pm to
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so throwing brine dead flounder over the side will help?


Yeah this was my thought. I imagine a 6” flounder is probably not doing so hot by the time it makes it to the deck of a shrimp boat.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 8:02 pm to
Throw em overboard. At least it will prevent the phenomenon pointed out earlier, coming in with a dozen shrimp and 1000 flounder.
Posted by dandyjohn
Member since Apr 2009
804 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 9:03 pm to
I think y'all don't seem to be understand commercial fisherman are targeting flounder deliberately under the cover of trawling for shrimp.
Posted by iron banks
Destrehan
Member since Jul 2014
4261 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 9:10 pm to
Here in SELA is really won't matter to rec fishermen. We rarely catch them anymore. Hard to keep what you never catch. Agreed it is the skimmers wiping in them out.
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15298 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 9:23 pm to
there's a couple different factors working against flounder at the moment. it's a GOM/South Atlantic issue.

environmentally, the sex of a flounder is determined at a very specific age which is based on prevailing temperature at the critical time period.

temperatures have been warmer in those critical times/areas and this has caused a severe shift in the sex ratio towards more males.

ETA: reducing any mortality at this point is justified, just mentioning that fishing mortality isnt the sole (pun) issue here
This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 9:27 pm
Posted by bigbuckdj
Member since Sep 2011
1989 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 10:11 pm to
That’s good to know, I didn’t think they were targeting them. I thought it was just an absurd amount of bycatch. Hopefully this helps. I love flounder.
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
16562 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 10:13 pm to
Been catching alot more this year in the Biloxi Marsh. Almost every trip. Not sure the reasons. Maybe salinity.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
47680 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 10:46 pm to
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Yep. The shrimpers would “accidentally” catch them when they were “shrimping”. Come back to the dock with 10 lbs of shrimp and a thousand flounder.

so throwing brine dead flounder over the side will help?






Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5645 posts
Posted on 7/21/22 at 7:29 am to
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so throwing brine dead flounder over the side will help?


The shrimpers on calcasieu lake were targeting flounder intentionally. They are allowed to sell flounder bycatch from shrimping but the way the rules were before nothing stoped then from trawling the ship channel during their fall migration under the disguise of shrimping

This rule should keep the shrimpers from targeting these areas during the flounder migration which is the only reason they were trawling there to begin with.

I don’t think any other gamefish are allowed to be kept while trawling or purse seining?
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