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re: Looks like they will open the Bonnet Carré Spillway
Posted on 4/30/11 at 10:51 pm to diat150
Posted on 4/30/11 at 10:51 pm to diat150
quote:I have some friends from Vidrine who owned a camp at the top of the launch in Simmesport. (It was an old fish market converted).
already a year or two ago a camp across the river lost about 6 acres of bank. it just collapsed into the river.
Fell in the Atchaf several years ago.
Posted on 5/1/11 at 12:38 am to Geauxtiga
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You tryin to snag Sportsman back in here too eh?
Posted on 5/1/11 at 12:57 am to The Sportsman
I was at the ORCS earlier this week for a tour. It's impressive to see and to hear how they operate the structures and how the hydro-electric plant was floated in. No one knows for sure if the Morganza will be opened, but the Corp has sent letters to landowners within the floodway notifying them of the potential for the structure to opened to higher flows.
Posted on 5/1/11 at 6:43 am to daLSUduckman
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Corp has sent letters to landowners within the floodway notifying them of the potential for the structure to opened to higher flows.
This is true. Farcast for the river in Baton Rouge is set at 44.5' on May 21. This can change if more rain comes.
This level is 1.5' higher then 1983 level.
Posted on 5/2/11 at 8:11 pm to fishfighter
Don't usually post on the O.B. but I've been following this thread. Think it needs a bump. I'm surprised that neither this thread nor the thread about it on the OT has been stickied.
Posted on 5/2/11 at 8:13 pm to When in Rome
Read today that the Corps of Eng are pumping liquid dynamite into levee up nawth. Had never heard of liquid dyno.
Posted on 5/2/11 at 8:17 pm to Geauxtiga
Nor have I. How does that even work?
Posted on 5/2/11 at 8:21 pm to Geauxtiga
I wonder if it's legitimately liquid dynamite or some other liquid explosive.
FWIW, nitroglycerine, which is what sticks of dynamite are made from, is a liquid.
FWIW, nitroglycerine, which is what sticks of dynamite are made from, is a liquid.
Posted on 5/2/11 at 8:25 pm to Boats n Hose
I read somewhere it was explosive 'gravel,' so I wouldnt be surprised if it was pumped in as a slurry.
FYI, BR now projected to crest at 47.5' on 5/21, doesn't look good.
FYI, BR now projected to crest at 47.5' on 5/21, doesn't look good.
Posted on 5/2/11 at 8:26 pm to Boats n Hose
quote:My bad it's probably "liquid explosive".
I wonder if it's legitimately liquid dynamite or some other liquid explosive.
Posted on 5/2/11 at 8:34 pm to halleburton
quote:I'm coonass so I just call any/all explosives, "Dynamite".
I read somewhere it was explosive 'gravel,' so I wouldnt be surprised if it was pumped in as a slurry.
Posted on 5/2/11 at 8:44 pm to halleburton
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BR now projected to crest at 47.5' on 5/21, doesn't look good.
shite's fixin to get real
Posted on 5/2/11 at 9:20 pm to Boats n Hose
i had a corps official tell me this morning the NO district has activated its emergency repsonse team and is patrolling levees 24/7. they are very seriously considering opening Morganza, but are worried about backwater flooding in morgan City.
Posted on 5/2/11 at 9:22 pm to Boats n Hose
One thing you can put in ink and that's the Morganza is going to be opened full throttle next week. Most of Angola will be evacuated next week.
Posted on 5/2/11 at 10:36 pm to MrLSU
Are they going to be able to fix the engineering problems previously discussed? (Regarding Morganza)
This post was edited on 5/2/11 at 10:37 pm
Posted on 5/3/11 at 12:17 am to MrLSU
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ost of Angola will be evacuated next week.
So the water is gonna be bad on the East side, bad enough to overtake Angola?
Posted on 5/3/11 at 3:22 am to Ignignot
This is a very interesting thread. I hope everything works out but it seems a large threat is looming...
Posted on 5/3/11 at 4:10 am to The Sportsman
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This is why it would be bad... All of this almost happened on 73' with no controlled flow through the Morganza Locks into the Spillway. It flooded everything (cities, farms, etc) and they almost didn't get it diverted back down the Mississippi River.
You are wrong. You are so woefully wrong I could not bear to read the replies on the next 3 pages.
Everything you have said , "The Sportsman", is either historically wrong or a supposition on your part. You are an alarmist.... Why?
"almost happened". You kidding me? Why did "this almost happen in '73 with no controlled flow through the Morganza Locks into the Spillway". Prove that. Link! Nope. Can't do that, can you. Supposition on your part.
It "flooded everything" True. "cities, farms, etc." - bald faced lie.... There were no cities or farms or etc. in the Spillway. That's why it's called the "Spillway". People back then were leasing land and grazing cattle in the Spillway below the Morganza Locks. They were given ample warning to remove the livestock before the gates at Morganza were opened. At the time in 1973 local people were concerned enough to use their boats to move animals (deer, livestock, pigs, other small animals like coons, etc.) to higher ground after the locks were opened - these stories made the news. There are still no cities or farms in the Spillway. You are so wrong....
"and they almost didn't get it diverted back down the Mississippi River" Wow. Where did you get this info? Prove this.. Links? At the time the Corps did admit to underestimating the flow through the gates and that they did open "too many gates" (I think it was 12) to begin with. One gate at the Morganza Locks gave the Corps. trouble closing. All other gates closed without incident. They finally got the last gate closed.
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My dad knows more on the topic than I do bc I wasn't born at the time
Remember (that's right, you weren't born yet), the gates were mechanically driven. But, in the end, they were all closed. No such thing as the almost not getting "back down the Mississippi River". Puhleezzzze.
I know. I was there in 1973.
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My dad knows more on the topic than I do bc I wasn't born at the time but basically they will only open it if New Orleans is going down.
Right. Which means you don't know. You really, really don't know. You make some interesting hypotheticals. However, it would appear that your stance is that you know more than the US Corps of Engineers since the Great Flood of 1927 occured (my grandmother & Mom lived near the Red River south of Alex in 1927 and it flooded - resulted in levees being built even along Red River after this huge flood event).
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the river pretty much did change direction and as I said, almost stayed that way while flooding EVERY small town near the Atchafalaya Basin. My dad knows more on the topic than I do bc I wasn't born at the time but basically they will only open it if New Orleans is going down. And there will be a serious risk of not being able to ever reverse it as this happened almost 40 years ago and the pressure at the Old River Control Structure is way greater than it was then
Man, you are so uniformed. You are not a creditable poster. Where do you live - Alaska? There are no small towns inside the Spillway (which means inside the levee system on each side of the Atchafalaya River. You do know this, right? Try to counter this. You can't. In addition, it flooded no (none, nada, zip, zero, 0) towns (or homes or trailers - none) outside the levee system of the spillway.
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while flooding EVERY small town near the Atchafalaya Basin.
Where did you get this from? Again, links?????
All I can think of is you are trying to bump, extend, promulgate this thread. Do you have an agenda? If not, learn reality, history, and do not post until you can add some real info.
Morgan City at risk? Yes, it certainly is. But it is at no more risk than people living near the Mississippi River in St. Louis. They (maybe you also if you live in Morgan City) know this risk. People in South Louisiana (I grew up there) also know the risk of hurricanes. So what? Gives nobody any more rights than anyone else....
Corps of Engineers were recently granted the right (by Court system) to blow up part of Mississippi levee up north to prevent Cairo, Illinois from being flooded. Will flood thousands of square miles of farmland, but will attempt to prevent loss of humanity & property of far greater value.
Do not attempt to belittle the "will of the people" and the plan the US Corps. of Engineers has had in place since the Great Flood of 1927. It has worked so far. Show me Links! where it has not protected the people since then.
Posted on 5/3/11 at 8:09 am to TaserTiger
If I shoot TaserTiger with a cork gun, I fully expect to get a Judge in the face!
Posted on 5/3/11 at 9:39 am to MrLSU
quote:Prison workers/inmates too?
Most of Angola will be evacuated next week.
This post was edited on 5/3/11 at 9:40 am
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