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re: Looking for recos. Should I buy into the 6.5 Creedmore hype?
Posted on 9/20/22 at 3:26 pm to texag7
Posted on 9/20/22 at 3:26 pm to texag7
He said it in a kind of light hearted way. I am certain there are other calibers guilty too and I know for a fact I have made a bad shot with a much larger caliber. Yep , used a tracking dog, to my embarrassment.
I say it’s it’s all about shot placement. Wife hunts with a 22-250 and never had one run off yet.
I say it’s it’s all about shot placement. Wife hunts with a 22-250 and never had one run off yet.
This post was edited on 9/20/22 at 3:36 pm
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Posted on 9/20/22 at 3:27 pm to FrankDrebin
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This has everything to do with the brand of rifle.
My Browning X-bolt feels light as hell.
technically, it has nothing to do with the brand of rifle. Browning offers an X-Bolt in 6.5CM that weighs 12 lbs. without a scope. It's designed to shoot LR (600-1000 yard) competition. Rifle weight and specs are based on the model. Howa offers a lightweight 6.5CM that has a 20" barrel, Hogue stock, and weighs 7 lbs. Lightweight rifles are easier to carry to/from the stand, yet have more recoil and are typically less accurate than heavier rifles. Different strokes for different folks.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 3:28 pm to FrankDrebin
Ya, mines not really a walk about gun. I think Im pushing 18lbs loaded with the suppressor.
Ive carried it though, Im not hustling around the mountains of colorado or anything though.
Ive carried it though, Im not hustling around the mountains of colorado or anything though.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 3:36 pm to FrankDrebin
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I shot her a little back on purpose so my Boykin could do a little tracking.
Look man, I get that you want your dog to do some work, but admitting to not making the best shot you possibly can just to let the deer run a little is kinda messed up and makes hunters look bad. I don't think it's fair to the deer to do that.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 3:36 pm to Got Blaze
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Got Blaze
Yes,
That is much better stated then my previous comment
Posted on 9/20/22 at 3:40 pm to ChatRabbit77
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ChatRabbit77
I understand your point of view but I never felt the deer wouldn't be recovered. Luckily she didn't go 30 or 40 yards.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 3:43 pm to FrankDrebin
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I never felt the deer wouldn't be recovered.
As a hunter we owe it to the animal to make the best shot possible to limit any suffering.
If you want to work your dog, cut a leg off and drag it.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 3:50 pm to mrcoon
Projectile make up is so important. Yeah grab a polymer tipped 120g match bullet and make marginal shots you'll have issues. A 140 Berger out of a 6.5 with any decent shot, is super deadly.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 3:56 pm to mrcoon
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The .243 was invented as a varmint rifle and should not be in the hands of anyone that doesn't understand its limitations on deer, especially deer over 150 pounds. It is a terrible choice for a kid.
Might be the most ignorant statement I've read on the OB. The .243 was designed as a dual-purpose round for deer hunting and varmint hunting. Winchester chose a 1:10" barrel twist which is optimum to stabilize the heavier 100 gr bullets for hunting deer size game. A 1:10" twist will also stabilize 80 gr bullets to shoot coyotes, groundhogs, and other varmints.
Remington soon followed suit by introducing their own .243 cartridge (called the .244 Remington) as they F'kd things up like always. Remington chose to market the .244 as a dual-purpose varmint hunting / deer cartridge and went with a slower 1:12" twist that would not stabilize the 90-100 gr bullets. The .244 could only stabilize 65-80 gr bullets and failed miserably as a deer hunting cartridge. Remington re-named the .244 the 6mm Remington and decided on a faster twist to make it a deer/varmint round. One of many marketing screw-ups by Remington which also includes the 7mm-06, 7mm Express, 280 Remington, and 5mm Remington.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 4:21 pm to RolltidePA
Get him started on .308.
If he wants to go exotic later in life he can go exotic but starting on NATO and other standardized calibers is the safest bet.
If he wants to go exotic later in life he can go exotic but starting on NATO and other standardized calibers is the safest bet.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 4:31 pm to RolltidePA
I’ve noticed the 6.5 CM threads and what pistol should I get my wife threads Always end up the same way. Not sure why anyone even ask here anymore. I could write the whole thread myself. Must be bots.
This post was edited on 9/20/22 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 9/20/22 at 4:52 pm to nolaks
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A 140 Berger
Is still the wrong choice for a hunting rifle.
Use a normal old 140gr or more bonded or interlock style bullet for best results.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 4:58 pm to bbvdd
Reason being the swede has to be loaded lightly due to all of the extremely old rifles out there chambered for it, particularly the Krag. For all in tents and porpoises though, they are ballistic twins. The swede requires a "long" action because the COAL is extremely long.
Loaded to modern pressures it'll easily outpace the Creedmoor, especially as the bullets get heavier. The case is bigger and the throats are long and the magazines are generally VERY long. You can also buy 6.5x55 S.E. ammo, which is euro spec and hotter than SAMMI spec ammo. It's just not safe for Krag rifles.
I dont understand why 129gr bullets are such a thing for the Creedmoor. They should all start at 140gr and go up to 160 like the swede has forever. That's where you get really great 6.5 performance.
Loaded to modern pressures it'll easily outpace the Creedmoor, especially as the bullets get heavier. The case is bigger and the throats are long and the magazines are generally VERY long. You can also buy 6.5x55 S.E. ammo, which is euro spec and hotter than SAMMI spec ammo. It's just not safe for Krag rifles.
I dont understand why 129gr bullets are such a thing for the Creedmoor. They should all start at 140gr and go up to 160 like the swede has forever. That's where you get really great 6.5 performance.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 5:08 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Loaded to modern pressures it'll easily outpace the Creedmoor, especially as the bullets get heavier.
I think the Swede is one of the best rounds ever made. You’ll not see me crap on it or really any cartridge.
They are all designed for something. I’ve read and don’t know if it’s accurate (Got Blaze can verify if he sees this), the 6.5 PRC was basically designed to get the 6.5x47 a Saami designation as there were several different designs of the 6.5x47.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 5:16 pm to Shut Up Mulllet
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I’ve noticed the 6.5 CM threads and what pistol should I get my wife threads Always end up the same way. Not sure why anyone even ask here anymore. I could write the whole thread myself. Must be bots.
Just not hunting season that’s all.
Two more weeks it will be all about. Corn or no corn, fence line hunting, dog hunting, shooting dogs, who’s better hunters (saddle, box or tailgatedroppers) age determination by the shadow of a night pic of some deer, walking in with a flashlight or a jar of lightning bugs, ozonics or feral hog piss for cover scen!!!
Just the OB lull ol baw
Posted on 9/20/22 at 5:56 pm to Ol boy
My Creedmoore is a nice tac driver, but not that good for deer unless you choose bullets wisely. I really don’t use it much since I stepped up to a 6.5 PRC that seems really good for dirt naps. I will say, I did shoot a deer, right behind the shoulder with a Federal load with a 130 Berger load, and the wound channel was pretty massive, but the deer still ran 150 yards.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 6:23 pm to ChatRabbit77
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I don't think it is fair to the deer to do that.
You are exactly right.
Doing what that other fellow did so his dog could have some tracking time is just another reason why so many hunters make me want to throw up.
And they call themselves "sportsmen". Bad, very bad.
This post was edited on 9/20/22 at 6:24 pm
Posted on 9/20/22 at 6:30 pm to RolltidePA
I had the exact same situation and bought my son the Weatherby in 7mm-08 that gave you a youth stock and then an adult stock as he grew. Weatherby is known for accurate guns. He killed his first deer with it at 8 yrs old. Great gun, low recoil and great whitetail deer cartridge. BUT now it’s hard to find and expensive. Makes no sense. I’m thinking of going to 308 or 6.5 Creedmore. But knock down power and under 200 yrd shots suggest 308. But DANG If that 7mm-08 isn’t a perfect cartridge for whitetail in LA. WTF?
Posted on 9/20/22 at 6:51 pm to RolltidePA
30.06 or .308 is all you need.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 7:36 pm to oldskule
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30.06
Went through a period of being difficult to find. .308 and 6.5 manbunn were always on the shelf.
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