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re: Looking for recos. Should I buy into the 6.5 Creedmore hype?
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:10 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:10 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
140 Accubonds are awesome out of the Creedmoor
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 7:18 am to RolltidePA
Almost any round will do the trick with the right bullet and shot placement. There is NO ROUND / CALIBER that is 100% reliable. Too many variables when hunting for that. As the 6.5 Creedmore is relatively new, over time I would say the 30-06 has crippled more deer and has had more deer lost. Doesn’t make it a bad round or a weak round. It’s just a numbers game.
The 6.5 Creedmore is good, as well as 30-06, 270, 308, 243, and a hundred more. I dropped one last year with a 300 blackout at 70 yds and another at 40 with 6.5 Grendel. Both dropped immediately.
If you have the opportunity for your son to shoot different calibers that would be great. He can decide which one he likes best. If recoil is too much for him he won’t shoot it well and might even get turned off to hunting.
Another consideration is ammo availability and cost.
Unless you are hunting out west, most of us have shots on deer under 75 yds and rarely over 150. Doesn’t mean we can’t use whatever caliber we prefer but it does mean we don’t have to have a 700 yard, sub MOA rifle to drop a deer at 40 yards.
Good luck!
The 6.5 Creedmore is good, as well as 30-06, 270, 308, 243, and a hundred more. I dropped one last year with a 300 blackout at 70 yds and another at 40 with 6.5 Grendel. Both dropped immediately.
If you have the opportunity for your son to shoot different calibers that would be great. He can decide which one he likes best. If recoil is too much for him he won’t shoot it well and might even get turned off to hunting.
Another consideration is ammo availability and cost.
Unless you are hunting out west, most of us have shots on deer under 75 yds and rarely over 150. Doesn’t mean we can’t use whatever caliber we prefer but it does mean we don’t have to have a 700 yard, sub MOA rifle to drop a deer at 40 yards.
Good luck!
Posted on 9/22/22 at 8:29 am to ChatRabbit77
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Look man, I get that you want your dog to do some work, but admitting to not making the best shot you possibly can just to let the deer run a little is kinda messed up and makes hunters look bad. I don't think it's fair to the deer to do that.
I agree. That pissed me off to read that.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 8:44 am to Kato
I'm sure he meant just shot it behind the shoulder instead of straight through it. I do that shooting does also, but in the name of saving meat when I can't get a good neck shot.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:10 am to brightside878
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140 Accubonds are awesome out of anything
Posted on 9/22/22 at 12:57 pm to Kato
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I agree. That pissed me off to read that.
Jeez guys.
I concede to the point that I could have taken the same shot on the doe in question as I did with the other deer that I was able to drop in place (which isn't guaranteed by any means) with the totally incapable cripplemore but to say that a shot just a little father back, which equates to more of a traditional lung shot, is somehow totally unethical seems like an overreaction. I mean damn, I wasn't aiming for the belly. I guess every bow hunter in the woods is a POS since next to no deer shot with a bow is going to die in place.
Next time I'll be a lot more descriptive of where on the deer my crosshairs were when I pulled the trigger for you guys.
On another note, all the animals taken with my 6.5 have been with a 129gr. interlock Hornandy American Whitetail cartridge. It has worked very well as the pictures show. I have however considered switching to a larger grain.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 1:13 pm to texag7
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Buddy of mine has a dog he uses to help people find wounded deer. When they call him to help find one he says he don’t have to ask what caliber the deer was shot with…. automatically knows it’s a 6.5 lol
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This is just a lie
Most of the rifle tracks I go on my with my dogs are for a range of different calibers, including 6.5 Creedmoor, but they all have one thing in common. Bad shot placement. Head-on chest shots and neck shots make up the majority of those.
I do tend to get most of my archery tracks for Rage mechanical broadheads, but I'm guessing that has more to do with it just being a super popular broadhead. Most of those calls are for high back shots and shoulder shots. Super low recovery rates for both of those shots with archery equipment.
I always aim about 4 inches behind the front shoulder. Deer don't run far, they leave a good blood trail, and you don't mess up any shoulder meat.
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 9/22/22 at 3:22 pm to RolltidePA
Get him a .243
Posted on 9/22/22 at 3:52 pm to FrankDrebin
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a traditional lung shot, is somehow totally unethical seems like an overreaction
Those guys assumed you shot it in the arse on purpose.
While it seems incomprehensible, I'm sure there's some trashy SOBs out there who do it.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 4:23 pm to FrankDrebin
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FrankDrebin
Your initial comment seemed to indicate wounding for the sake of dog training. You don’t need my approval but thanks for clarifying
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:19 pm to bbvdd
.243 winchester
Get your son a .243; hope the link is helpful.
Get your son a .243; hope the link is helpful.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 11:20 pm to RolltidePA
Holy hell, there's enough dumb fudd lore in here to win two world wars.
It'll take anything short of large grizzlies *if* you shoot quality hunting bullets rather than match stuff. And it'll make it easier to do so at medium-to-long ranges due to flatter trajectory, with less recoil. It's straight-up superior to .308, even if their capabilities do have like 95% overlap. And if you get the right rifle, it'll be able to handle other applications as well...with ammo tailored to those applications.
Sigh.
It'll take anything short of large grizzlies *if* you shoot quality hunting bullets rather than match stuff. And it'll make it easier to do so at medium-to-long ranges due to flatter trajectory, with less recoil. It's straight-up superior to .308, even if their capabilities do have like 95% overlap. And if you get the right rifle, it'll be able to handle other applications as well...with ammo tailored to those applications.
Sigh.
This post was edited on 9/23/22 at 2:00 am
Posted on 9/23/22 at 7:19 am to RolltidePA
Bought my son a 7MM-08 when he was about 10. He’s now 26 and 6’6” and still uses it. Heck, I’ve used it a couple of times, it’s a great caliber.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 7:29 am to Menji
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Holy hell, there's enough dumb fudd lore in here to win two world wars.
Or lose one. A family I'm good friends with has 1000 high fence acres and they've killed more deer than I have hair on my head, almost exclusively with .223 and neck shots. I've used it on their land 3 times under 100 yards with bang-flops each time, just like the bang-flop I got with 300 WSM. I've read hunting articles that estimate .243 has killed more white tails than any other single caliber.
Now if you get buck fever and you're going to take a shot at a moving deer crossing a plot 300 yards away, then yeah, bigger will give you a larger margin of error. I don't take those shots, but I get it. Shot placement STILL counts, because I saw a video of some idiot shooting a doe with a .50 Barrett and the damn thing still ran 75 yards. Looked like a volleyball had been scooped out of its midsection but it ran all the same. With good shot placement the deer doesn't care if it's .243, "cripplemore", .270, whatever.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 9:59 am to 257WBY
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The bang, flops are all the marketing Weatherby needs.
My son has killed 4 deer so far.
2 with 6.8spc both bang flops
1 with 6.5 grendel bang flop
1 6.5cm ran 20yds
I say bang flop, but they weren't really. He was using a silencer on all of them. So, let's say crack/flop.
All were between 80-120 yds.
It's not the cartridge.
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