re: Looking for recos. Should I buy into the 6.5 Creedmore hype?

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Sometimes hunters are too damned stupid to read a box a realize that the bullet they are picking are not good for the type of hunting they are doing or for hunting at all.

Hornady ELD-x is the perfect example. It's designed to expand property at longer distances (moving slower). At distances 200 yds and in, the bullet grenades and may not exit.

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I agree but the ammo manufacturers are not entirely blameless in this, straight from Hornady’s website;

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The ELD-X® (Extremely Low Drag - eXpanding) bullet is a technologically advanced, match accurate, ALL-RANGE hunting bullet featuring highest-in-class ballistic coefficients and consistent, controlled expansion at ALL practical hunting distances.

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I’d suspect higher weight 6.5mm bullets are gonna be even more susceptible to fragmenting at high velocity just due to the shape, but I’ve never cared enough to dig into that aspect. Either way you have ammo manufacturers who want to be able to print the highest BC they can on a box, because that’s what sold the gun in the first place.

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bbvdd

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The swede isn't faster. Period.

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checked Nosler manual for 130gr bullets. It has 3-4 common powders between Swede & Creedmoor for that bullet weight. The Swede always has half a grain more powder listed for about 50-80 fps less velocity if I read that right (also on a conf call right now so...)

That said, not much of a difference to claim the Swede was broke and the Creedmoor "fixed it". I'm just not a new fad kind of guy and like the "classics" and wood stocks.

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"The 6.5 PRC has markedly enhanced capacity compared to the Creedmoor thanks to its parent case—around 28-percent—which adds up to more velocity—the 8-percent neighborhood. This adds up downrange. A quick example might shed some light. Take Hornady’s 147-grain 6.5 Creedmoor and 6.5 PRC Match loads, topped with identical bullets (Extra Low Drag Match), with identical BCs (.697 G1). The PRC pushes its bullet from the muzzle of a 24-inch barrel at 2,910 fps compared to the Creedmoor’s 2,695 fps. That’s a difference of 215 fps, at 1,000 yards this means around 50-inches less drop and push the mark at which the bullet goes sub-sonic by another 250 or so yards....."


FWIW, I shoot a 6.5x47 Lapua which works perfectly fine for my hunting and shooting applications. I encourage people to shoot what rifle and cartridge they have the most confidence in. Bullet construction and shot placement are key factors in hunting any animal species.

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I was referring to the 6.5 swede.

plenty of other cartridges in the 6.5 thats faster but not the swede.

.264 win mag
new wby 6.5-300 or whatever
6.5 prc

etc.

my sis in law shoots a 6.5 howa, I shoot a .308 Kimber.
her gun is SO HEAVY. I'd never want to carry that through the woods on a regular basis. I feel like if the gun isn't comfortable then it's going to make your kid less inclined to want to be in the woods. If I were in your shoes I'd take him to a shop on a few different occasions and let him see what feels right for him.

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my sis in law shoots a 6.5 howa

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her gun is SO HEAVY

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This has everything to do with the brand of rifle.
My Browning X-bolt feels light as hell.

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This has everything to do with the brand of rifle.

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I think my 6.5 creed is like 15lbs.

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Buddy of mine has a dog he uses to help people find wounded deer. When they call him to help find one he says he don’t have to ask what caliber the deer was shot with…. automatically knows it’s a 6.5 lol

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This is just a lie

The .243 was invented as a varmint rifle and should not be in the hands of anyone that doesn't understand its limitations on deer, especially deer over 150 pounds. It is a terrible choice for a kid.

Most adults don't understand bullet choice. Someone here even used the term "over penetration" which doesn't exist. People also like to say a bullet is "too fast to expand" which is another myth. Lightly constructed fast bullets on sub 100yard targets can and will explode on impact resulting in lost or wounded game. This is where these myths come from, and it is not really the average hunter's fault. Target and varmint bullets are marketed to deer hunters by the manufactures. The original and most devious was Nosler with their ballistic tip. Most people refer to all plastic tipped bullet as "ballistic tips" which couldn't be further from the truth. I speculate Nosler ballistic tips have been responsible for more wounded deer than any other bullet in history. Many people that were around in the 90's still refuse to use any plastic tipped bullets because they think they all perform like Nosler ballistic tips.

Barnes makes just about the most failsafe bullet. Even still they have their limitations like all monolithic bullets. At a certain point they won't properly expand. To add that point is different for every cartridge. For me that will never be a problem because on don't shoot far.

All anyone needs to know about the 6.5 Creed:
Is the 6.5 Creed Good for Hunting?