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re: Is it necessary to anchor a gun safe to the floor?
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:58 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:58 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
Safes will float in a flood if not Bolted down.
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Posted on 10/16/24 at 10:48 am to BIG Texan
Wrong i have abut 2 dozen friends that went thru Harvey and not a single gun safe moved. we have even discussed it around the campfire. They won't float off.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 12:49 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
I have a heavy azz Liberty, 24 gun case., Two guys with a furniture dolly brought it in like it was nothing, maybe 10 minutes. I bolted it thru the floor, one less thing to worry about. Those mounting holes are there for a reason.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 1:06 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
A friends safe was stolen by using golf balls. They literally poured golf balls all over the floor, got the safe onto the golf calls and used his broom to keep them in front of the safe while they move it. So yes. Bolt it to the floor.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 1:35 pm to BadatBourre
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A friends safe was stolen by using golf balls. They literally poured golf balls all over the floor, got the safe onto the golf calls and used his broom to keep them in front of the safe while they move it. So yes. Bolt it to the floor.
Neighbor across the street from me used rice in his garage to move his
Posted on 10/16/24 at 1:44 pm to idlewatcher
Bolt to floor in a corner with door handle closest to the wall to keep prybars from gaining leverage.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 1:59 pm to lsufan1971
Posted on 10/17/24 at 12:00 am to BadatBourre
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A friends safe was stolen by using golf balls. They literally poured golf balls all over the floor, got the safe onto the golf calls and used his broom to keep them in front of the safe while they move it. So yes. Bolt it to the floor.
Heavy duty moving blanket, it will slide across a floor, with a couple guys pushing it.
Posted on 10/17/24 at 10:26 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
First, nobody in here mentioned anything about a safe, just realize you are buying a security cabinet and not a safe. It's OK, it is suitable for the vast majority of people.
These Security cabinets are EASY to break into, it is harder if you properly bolt it down, but not much if you know what you are doing. We busted a couple for estates throughout the years, it is not hard and it is crazy people put 6 figure collections in $600 "safes"
Best value is to find a used safe out of a box store. Lots of retail box stores have been and are shutting down and large AMSEC and other real safes are out there on the market for a fraction of what they were new. Even something 100 years old is fine, but unless you are putting machine guns in it your security cabinet is fine.
You don't need to bolt it down for safety of being knocked over or taken away, but it does make it marginally harder to break into, but the vast majority of guns in safes are stolen by someone you know and who knows you have the safe... not some smash and grab, so the cabinet alone should be good for 99% of scenarios.
These Security cabinets are EASY to break into, it is harder if you properly bolt it down, but not much if you know what you are doing. We busted a couple for estates throughout the years, it is not hard and it is crazy people put 6 figure collections in $600 "safes"
Best value is to find a used safe out of a box store. Lots of retail box stores have been and are shutting down and large AMSEC and other real safes are out there on the market for a fraction of what they were new. Even something 100 years old is fine, but unless you are putting machine guns in it your security cabinet is fine.
You don't need to bolt it down for safety of being knocked over or taken away, but it does make it marginally harder to break into, but the vast majority of guns in safes are stolen by someone you know and who knows you have the safe... not some smash and grab, so the cabinet alone should be good for 99% of scenarios.
Posted on 10/18/24 at 6:48 am to armsdealer
So you wouldn't consider this a safe?
Absolutely.
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...but the vast majority of guns in safes are stolen by someone you know and who knows you have the safe...
Absolutely.
Posted on 10/18/24 at 6:51 am to thejudge
Label says "Residential Security Container".... which most "safes" are....
ETA - just saw others posted same.
I would be looking at fire ratings as well.... I know of people who lost the contents of their safe due to a fire.
ETA - just saw others posted same.
I would be looking at fire ratings as well.... I know of people who lost the contents of their safe due to a fire.
This post was edited on 10/18/24 at 7:04 am
Posted on 10/18/24 at 6:58 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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So you wouldn't consider this a safe?
With 14 gauge steel, I don’t think that he would. Especially with so few door bolts.
This post was edited on 10/19/24 at 4:59 am
Posted on 10/18/24 at 10:47 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
Mine isn’t that big but I bolted it down. Simply for fire reasons. If the house catches on fire and burns to the ground I hope to go back to a safe standing upright and not full of firehose water.
Posted on 10/18/24 at 11:18 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
Depends on your objective for your safe. If it is security from thieves, you should boot it down. I have a safe to make sure my kids buddies don’t get a wild hair and goof off w my guns. Also it keeps them free of dust and has a place to store things like cleaning supplies and done ammo If a thief breaks in and opens it I have insurance for that.
But if you get a run if a mill safe, they can be opened pretty quickly w a pry bar after pushed over. There are some pretty eye opening videos online
But if you get a run if a mill safe, they can be opened pretty quickly w a pry bar after pushed over. There are some pretty eye opening videos online
Posted on 10/19/24 at 9:14 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
I have a Browning in my basement, inside a locked room and it isn’t bolted down. Been there 15 years with no issues.
I think it depends on where you put it. Friend of mine has 2 huge safes filled with guns just sitting in his garage, not bolted down. If I had to keep my safe in the garage, it would be bolted to the floor.
A bit harder to access in my basement and where I live, not too worried about any crack heads coming by.
I think it depends on where you put it. Friend of mine has 2 huge safes filled with guns just sitting in his garage, not bolted down. If I had to keep my safe in the garage, it would be bolted to the floor.
A bit harder to access in my basement and where I live, not too worried about any crack heads coming by.
Posted on 10/19/24 at 11:17 am to TigersnJeeps
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I know of people who lost the contents of their safe due to fire
Fire ratings are tricky. They aren't fire rated for documents...
Should look at minimum 45 minutes.
For documents buy a small fireproof briefcase style safe and store that inside the gun safe.
Posted on 10/19/24 at 12:14 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
It keeps someone from being able to tip the safe over which makes it very easy to pry the door off. Bolt it down with the adjacent wall on the other side of the hinges, and it is much harder to pry open.
Posted on 10/19/24 at 12:33 pm to Buck_Rogers
Yes all of mine are bolted down
prying the door is only one method of getting into one - they can be flipped on their face and cut open with a battery powered angle grinder where the back or side material is usually thinner than the door
prying the door is only one method of getting into one - they can be flipped on their face and cut open with a battery powered angle grinder where the back or side material is usually thinner than the door
This post was edited on 10/19/24 at 12:36 pm
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