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re: interesting numbers on ducks and hunters...
Posted on 1/24/19 at 9:34 pm to DuckSausage
Posted on 1/24/19 at 9:34 pm to DuckSausage
I always have trouble making sense of the fact that per license sales, we have substantially fewer hunters, but I swear every year it seems there are more people fighting over limited ground on public nwr or wma’s. Am I just misremembering it? Seems that public areas are way more crowded now. I mean when you think of what someone has to do to get down into Delta NWR, you’d think you would have the place to yourself, especially of theres only 2/3 of the hunters there were 20 years ago.
On a side note, ive always wondered if there is anywhere else in the US where people have more of an arduous journey to get to their duck blinds than in southeast louisiana. I mean I watch hunting videos and most duck hunters in the country seem to be hunting within 500 yards of a road where they just park their truck and walk across a field. In Venice you run a large mothership boat (hopefully with radar) in the pitch dark through what has to be one of the most dangerous waterways in the country, for 15 miles down to the head of passes or main pass, only to then have to navigate smaller waterways known for sandbars, and then anchoring, launching your pirogue and often pushpoling or skidding through really tough mud flats. I just cant believe the Missouri guy is going to do that. And yet, with all that, there will be someone parked in the spot you were hoping to get.
On a side note, ive always wondered if there is anywhere else in the US where people have more of an arduous journey to get to their duck blinds than in southeast louisiana. I mean I watch hunting videos and most duck hunters in the country seem to be hunting within 500 yards of a road where they just park their truck and walk across a field. In Venice you run a large mothership boat (hopefully with radar) in the pitch dark through what has to be one of the most dangerous waterways in the country, for 15 miles down to the head of passes or main pass, only to then have to navigate smaller waterways known for sandbars, and then anchoring, launching your pirogue and often pushpoling or skidding through really tough mud flats. I just cant believe the Missouri guy is going to do that. And yet, with all that, there will be someone parked in the spot you were hoping to get.
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Posted on 1/24/19 at 9:38 pm to miramon
While overall hunter numbers have gone down, public land hunters seem to have gone up. More expensive leases and less access to private lands have pushed more hunters to public land.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 10:04 pm to jchamil
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I live in Tuscaloosa but hunt in Hale County.
I got a lease in Pickens County, but looking for something closer to the house. I am on 69 south almost to Moundville.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 6:37 am to KemoSabe65
SO now we are making progress with some logic here... Can someone please go cross reference these numbers with the average temperatures for those years and water level of the Mississippi river? I think we can all vouch for last year being dry and cold= SUCCESS. Wet and Warm= No success. Somebody go get their high school report game on and don't forget the got damn work cited page that will be an automatic letter grade deduction.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 7:14 am to BarryMcCokner
Good years create an entitlement mentality and lean years create whiners. We are programmed to control our outcomes in life be it personal or business. There is no controlling Mother Nature but we forget this, history always repeats itself and weather cycles are no different. Maybe these cycles are trending longer idk.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 7:40 am to BarryMcCokner
I hunt on the coast and I get excited when the middle of the flyway has had a dry Summer and early Fall b/c the coast will always have water.
We had a great year last year, especially the 2nd split. I expected this year to be slow but not as bad as it turned out to be.
I'm of the thinking that for whatever reason, things cycle every 3-5 years. 1 good season, a couple of average seasons, and a bad year or 2 mixed in. I'm not sure what causes it, but I'd think because habitat (Feed, water etc.) conditions changes. Some years our ponds are full of widgeon grass and others its barren.
We had a great year last year, especially the 2nd split. I expected this year to be slow but not as bad as it turned out to be.
I'm of the thinking that for whatever reason, things cycle every 3-5 years. 1 good season, a couple of average seasons, and a bad year or 2 mixed in. I'm not sure what causes it, but I'd think because habitat (Feed, water etc.) conditions changes. Some years our ponds are full of widgeon grass and others its barren.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 8:13 am to NWTFbama
quote:made some good hunts near gordo.. 83-84 and 85
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I live in Tuscaloosa but hunt in Hale County.
I got a lease in Pickens County, but looking for something closer to the house. I am on 69 south almost to Moundville.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 8:14 am to miramon
quote:There are fewer hunters.. but access is harder now as small tracts are constantly being gobbled up by large corps.
I always have trouble making sense of the fact that per license sales, we have substantially fewer hunters, but I swear every year it seems there are more people fighting over limited ground on public nwr or wma’
Posted on 1/25/19 at 9:24 am to KemoSabe65
Thank you!
Posted on 1/25/19 at 9:28 am to LSUengr
quote:since i started hunting I have always had access to private land(some good, some not good and some even great but I have always made about 5-10 hunts a year on public land. I know back in the 80s PAC was crowded - Pass a loutre was not... heck we hunted PAL in 84 and didn't see another hunter of fisherman for 3 days.... now... you can't go 3 hours... and mud motors have made many more people much more active than they used to be...
While overall hunter numbers have gone down, public land hunters seem to have gone up. More expensive leases and less access to private lands have pushed more hunters to public land.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 9:31 am to miramon
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On a side note, ive always wondered if there is anywhere else in the US where people have more of an arduous journey to get to their duck blinds
probably not duck blinds, although there are still clubs that have a pretty good haul. Mcielhenny's chenier club is a worse boat ride than venice depending on how you look at it. Out west how hard you want to hunt big game is entirely up to you. You can hike into wilderness areas and back country camp miles away from another soul at serious elevation. its glorius to get away from people.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 9:36 am to nolaks
quote:When I was working for our rich uncle in va beach... hunting chesapeake bay tidewaters was tougher than our marsh because of the larger tidal range....
interesting numbers on ducks and hunters...
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On a side note, ive always wondered if there is anywhere else in the US where people have more of an arduous journey to get to their duck blinds
Posted on 1/25/19 at 9:50 am to BarryMcCokner
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I think we can all vouch for last year being dry and cold= SUCCESS. Wet and Warm= No success
But you have to do the weather for Canada, and the Midwest
All those guys on FF posting pics from 20 years ago killing ducks in short sleeves trying to prove a point but the weather down here doesn’t really matter and those pics are before no till really took off
This winter for LA has been avg temps but above avg rainfall, the winter for Midwest has been way above avg until the last week or so
Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:21 am to choupiquesushi
Spot on! Hunted Lacassine during 3/30 and we were one of three groups hunting the pipeline. Our limits consisted of mallards/pintails/mottle/teal and it was glorious. Landing groups of 25-40 birds was very common. Each year they increased the days and # of birds you saw increasing numbers of hunters. The risk/reward ratio was closed annually until there were more hunters than areas to hunt or birds to shoot. I remember when trucks would line up on 27 waiting for the gates to open at Sabine during the point system.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 1:18 pm to choupiquesushi
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made some good hunts near gordo.. 83-84 and 85
There is still great hunting around Gordo.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 1:54 pm to Midtiger farm
You know im no meteorologist, but usually when its freezing here its been frozen up in Canada and the Midwest... idk just a thought
Posted on 1/25/19 at 5:33 pm to BarryMcCokner
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You know im no meteorologist, but usually when its freezing here its been frozen up in Canada and the Midwest... idk just a thought
You’re right you are no meteorologist. It doesn’t get cold here every time it gets cold in Iowa or Missouri. Sometimes fronts die out or don’t bring enough energy for the really cold weather to make it here
And sometimes the cold air goes more to the east or west. The last couple of cold air masses have been centered from Chicago east
The Texas panhandle and parts of Oklahoma have consistently been warmer than here the last couple of weeks
This post was edited on 1/25/19 at 5:39 pm
Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:18 pm to Midtiger farm
First of all that’s fake news. Got a lease in the Oklahoma panhandle it’s been below 32 every night for the last two weeks. I get what you’re saying but you’re diverging from the point.
Second, I never said every time it gets cold in Iowa it gets cold here..... I said usually when it’s cold here it’s also cold in Canada and the Midwest. Usually...
Second, I never said every time it gets cold in Iowa it gets cold here..... I said usually when it’s cold here it’s also cold in Canada and the Midwest. Usually...
Posted on 1/26/19 at 2:22 am to nolaks
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its glorius to get away from people.
God this.
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