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re: I am about to get this Drill combo, should I?
Posted on 4/13/17 at 5:06 pm to The Rodfather
Posted on 4/13/17 at 5:06 pm to The Rodfather
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Side note: I love that on the link you provided, all the "with free..." options are $138-$159 higher in price with
i noticed that too.
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 10:26 pm to OldSouth
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Get the black kit. The CX200RB. It's brushless, will do everything a home owner needs, and it's one of the cheapest brushless kits on the market. Plus the batteries charge in half the time as dewalt or Milwaukee
This. I've had the black brushless pair for about 3 months and they are incredible. The best thing is that they are substantially smaller and lighter than the others and still kick arse. They feel so great in the hand.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 12:17 am to OldSouth
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Plus the batteries charge in half the time as dewalt or Milwaukee
Yes, 2.0 Ah batteries charge in less time than 3.0, 4.0, and 5.0 Ah batteries. They also run out of charge faster too...
Let you know something useful, Makita, DeWalt, Milwaukee, and everyone else all use the same 18650 Li-ion cells to build their battery packs. Same chemistry, same technology, same charging requirements, and same feedback circuitry to control discharge rate. Doesn't matter what fancy name they call them, they are all the same.Posted on 4/14/17 at 3:58 am to PhilipMarlowe
Makita is a quality product a very good notch above what you find in the box stores
Posted on 4/14/17 at 10:23 am to Clames
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Yes, 2.0 Ah batteries charge in less time than 3.0, 4.0, and 5.0 Ah batteries. They also run out of charge faster too... Let you know something useful, Makita, DeWalt, Milwaukee, and everyone else all use the same 18650 Li-ion cells to build their battery packs. Same chemistry, same technology, same charging requirements, and same feedback circuitry to control discharge rate. Doesn't matter what fancy name they call them, they are all the same.
Nope. You sound like a knowledgeable guy but you're wrong here. A 3.0 amp Makita charges in 30 minutes. A dewalt charges in 60. And the technology IS NOT THE SAME. Same cells, both made by Sony but definitely not the same. The Makita battery, tools, and the charger have micro chips built in that communicate with each other during the charge and use in the tool. Take the top off a dewalt battery and look at it. Looks like a 5 year old put it together.
Also, that cell chemistry you speak of was developed by Makita over a decade ago. Yet were the first of the big 3 to use Li-Ion batteries. They also made the first brushless cordless tools.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 12:21 pm to Chad504boy
We use Makita at my shop. Have about 15 different sets running all day long. The Rigid and Dewalt stuff gets worn out very quickly, so they get left behind when we're grabbing stuff. My old shop used Milwaukee stuff. Both Makita and Milwaukee have held up well
Posted on 4/14/17 at 12:33 pm to OldSouth
That's the same kit I got last year except in the white. I couldn't find the CT200 available anymore but seems they renamed it XT273R and only $200 on Amazon prime. I've used and abused it and it still runs unbelievable
This post was edited on 4/14/17 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 4/14/17 at 1:27 pm to PhilipMarlowe
Have it. Love it. Have you checked HD to see if they have it on sale? Lots of stuff on sale for spring time.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 4:23 pm to buzwa
Out of curiosity what is the difference between impact hammer and drill in the makita set at Home Depot on sale For $179
Posted on 4/14/17 at 5:52 pm to PhilipMarlowe
I have Makita products and the drills and drivers have plenty of power, seem more compact and well balanced, a key factor when using them for extended periods in awkward places.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 6:53 pm to Macfly
I have been using Makita impacts and drills for about 10 years professionally working on cars and would not use anything else. On my 3rd impact as of now. The 2 previous ones still work just started to act up once in a while and since it is used a everyday I can't have it fail. The only problem I have seen is the smaller batteries fail much sooner than the standard 3.0 batteries. Used to be able to get them on eBay for about 70 for the drill or impact and 150 for 2 batteries and a charger
Posted on 4/14/17 at 9:06 pm to The Last Coco
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Porter-Cable 20V Drill Combo Set ($131 after using code TRIPLE15)
My BIL has that set. Does everything he needs it to do around the house. He recently also bought a reciprocating saw to go along with it. Like $55 as a bar tool. I've noticed other bare-tools (tool only, no batt) are quite inexpensive compared to the competition.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 10:19 pm to OldSouth
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A 3.0 amp Makita charges in 30 minutes. A dewalt charges in 60.
What you left out is "it depends on the chargers used". I have a DeWalt rapid charger and it takes 30 minutes (often less) to charge my 3.0 Ah 20V batteries. If you compare 5.0Ah batteries there is no real difference either. So apples to apples; no, Makita isn't defying physics to charge their batteries faster. All lithium ion batteries have a limit on how fast they can charge and all rapid chargers take advantage of the fact that 99% of users can't tell the difference between these batteries at 80% SOC and 100% SOC. The marketing folks in these companies know this though so if you are drinking the Koolaid on these battery packs, chargers, and brushless tools then you really don't know this stuff.
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The Makita battery, tools, and the charger have micro chips built in that communicate with each other during the charge and use in the tool.
Do I really need to take apart a bunch of other brands batteries to prove to you that Makita is FAR from the only company that uses micro-controllers in their cordless tools these days? I've got a 18V Ryobi dustbuster that can make that claim...
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Take the top off a dewalt battery and look at it. Looks like a 5 year old put it together.
No it doesn't, not even close. I'll show you what a busted Makita 1/4" impact planetary gear set looks like if you want to see something put together by a 5 year old looking to cut corners though.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 11:40 pm to Clames
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charge my 3.0 Ah 20V batteries
You know that dewalt battery isn't 20 volts right?
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Do I really need to take apart a bunch of other brands batteries to prove to you that Makita is FAR from the only company that uses micro-controllers
Nope, just the dewalt. Let me know when you find the microchip
Posted on 4/15/17 at 12:35 am to PhilipMarlowe
Can't comment on makita, but ridgids battery warranty is insane. They will definitely be my next set after the dewalt craps out.
My fil just goes up to home depot and gives them the old battery, and they give him a new one no questions asked. My batteries are at least $80 each. Worth thinking about.
My fil just goes up to home depot and gives them the old battery, and they give him a new one no questions asked. My batteries are at least $80 each. Worth thinking about.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 12:41 am to OldSouth
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You know that dewalt battery isn't 20 volts right?
What makes you say that? Mine sure says 20v on the side. Are they lying to me?
Posted on 4/15/17 at 1:45 am to OldSouth
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You know that dewalt battery isn't 20 volts right?
Were you one of the ones that really needed the printed disclaimer to understand that? I bet you were. ProTip: Porter Cable and B&D have the same disclaimer too.
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Let me know when you find the microchip
You mean you couldn't look under the terminals and see them yourself? Or did you only look at the passives because you don't know how multi layered pcb's work?
Here's a hint for ya kid: open your eyes first.This post was edited on 4/15/17 at 1:46 am
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:32 am to The Last Coco
I have that exact same Porter cable duo, except that my drill is a hammer drill. The batteries hardly ever need charging except when I'm running the sawzall, which eats batteries for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 1:51 pm to bapple
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I have that exact same Porter cable duo, except that my drill is a hammer drill. The batteries hardly ever need charging except when I'm running the sawzall, which eats batteries for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
Agreed. I have the impact driver, regular drill, hammer drill, and recip saw. That recip eats batteries like crazy. I have a big 4Ah battery that I run it on and it helps tremendously.
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