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re: HR 391 (Water Access Rights) Passes 5-3 in committee

Posted on 4/13/18 at 2:53 pm to
Posted by rsoudelier1
Houma
Member since Sep 2017
59 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 2:53 pm to
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He has use of the water when it is over his water bottoms to the exclusion of the public.


Do I have use of the air above my home to the exclusion of the public then?
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
24162 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 2:53 pm to
I've tried not to call people names in here, but got dammit if this hasn't been a hard week made harder by stupid people. I've had enough!
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 2:53 pm to
quote:

But don't you see you are asking to gain public access to that resource on private property


nope, no one is on or even touching your "property" they are on public water after public resources in that public water.

it has nothing at all to do with your "land", only your right to deny the public access to public waters
Posted by LaTexan
Texas
Member since Mar 2018
26 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 2:58 pm to
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I've tried not to call people names in here, but got dammit if this hasn't been a hard week made harder by stupid people. I've had enough!


The good thing for y'all is most of those tards vote Republican despite crying about the rich and powerful and advocating for governments to take rights away from people, so you got that going for you. That is unless the OB is a big John Bel fan.
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
24162 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:02 pm to
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nope, no one is on or even touching your "property" they are on public water after public resources in that public water.


bullshite. OK. you're from Houma right? Drive down the bayou to Dulac and look at the businesses and homes on the way. Look at the way people keep up their own property. 75% of them are the trashiest people on the planet. Now do you think those people who don't take care of their OWN private property are gonna take care of someone else's? Do you think they are gonna care whether they tear up the bottoms or waterfowl feed or whether they are trespassing?

THEY'RE NOT. It becomes a free for all wild west bayou trash fest. The public is gonna tear it all up.

quote:

it has nothing at all to do with your "land", only your right to deny the public access to public waters


Dammit, access to the waters become private when they are over private water bottoms. Water is fluid-- it will eventually come back over public water bottoms and you can fish it then and tear up historically navigable water bottoms then.

This post was edited on 4/13/18 at 3:04 pm
Posted by KemoSabe65
70605
Member since Mar 2018
7046 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:17 pm to
Bow fishin gonna buss wide open if dis passes, twenty-fo-sevin gonna be shootin dem fish.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87385 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:21 pm to
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only your right to deny the public access to public waters
No one is denying the public access to public waters.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61428 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:44 pm to
I think landowners should send the state a bill for storing all this water for them.
Posted by OverboredTgr
Member since Apr 2018
82 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 4:28 pm to
From the guide vs the sheriff law suit ... "unless a navigational servitude is imposed on a waterway, the public has no right to use it." go figure
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87385 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 4:33 pm to
What's the name of this one?
Posted by LaTexan
Texas
Member since Mar 2018
26 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 4:40 pm to
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What's the name of this one?


That would be the only one I've seen covered by local newspaper/outdoor writers I'd assume.

LINK
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29730 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 5:00 pm to


Cancel your Farm Bureau insurance polices and change them to another company if you support access to fishing for your kids and grand kids.
Posted by OverboredTgr
Member since Apr 2018
82 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 5:18 pm to
carpenter v webre
good read
Posted by ct4lsu
BR
Member since Jan 2008
1266 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 5:24 pm to
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I would argue that Article 450 never intended the term "running water" to apply to a man made canal constructed on private property with private funds that just happens to be subject to the ebb and flow of the tide.

All of this private,man made canals are directly and substantionably contributing to land loss and erosion. Do these land owners pay more in taxes or on there own to mitigate this problem... no they do not.
Give the water back to the sportsman!
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72082 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 5:39 pm to
* while trespassing
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87385 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:16 pm to
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All of this private,man made canals are directly and substantionably contributing to land loss and erosion. Do these land owners pay more in taxes or on there own to mitigate this problem... no they do not.
This has nothing to do with the issue at hand. Probably your side's worst talking point.
Posted by PolyPusher86
St. George
Member since Jun 2010
3357 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 9:22 pm to
Time to sign up for Farm Bureau
Posted by OverboredTgr
Member since Apr 2018
82 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 12:17 pm to
Same guy pushing this bill. Seems to me he wants another crack but this time on the State's tab. Let the State pay to challenge this again because all us fishermen have lost. Doesn't matter the State lost too.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14970 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 1:14 pm to
To me the best solution possible has been suggested here already. The Louisiana State Law Institute is run out of LSU and designed specifically to form Study Groups to determine if there is a need for potential legislation. Or-if they say there is a need-their committees can produce model legislation.

These study groups and committees are typically comprised of subject matter experts in a neutral fashion and allow public input at public meetings. Anyone is allowed to contribute. This is the single best approach that anyone on either side could possibly ask for. The results would address the issue as thoroughly as possible.

There’s so much uninformed yet solidified opinion here that with so many minds made up, the compromise and path forward is being ignored. It’s one that-at least for now-wouldn’t actually make a call one way or another on this.
Posted by Nawlens Gator
louisiana
Member since Sep 2005
5960 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 7:24 pm to
YEAH! Tidal waters belong to the public. Submerged land may be private, but tidal waters on top are not.

Next they'll want to ban aircraft from flying over their submerged land.



This post was edited on 4/14/18 at 7:25 pm
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