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smoked hog
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Help me pick a new rifle

So I think it's time to pick up a new rifle for potential western long shots but mostly just because I want something that has a little better long-range capability for playing around with the guys.

I know I'm going with 300 win mag. I already have a savage ultralight so I'm not afraid to go heavier this time.

I think I have it narrowed down to 4.

Savage high country- cheapest for me and the heaviest. Love the spiral fluting and cerakote. Accu-fit stock gives more fit options.

CZ 550 or 600. By far the most plain looking but fantastic trigger. No cerakote.

Weatherby talus. Good trigger, fluting and cerakote everywhere, basically a tricked out howa 1500.

Bergarra b14 wilderness ridge. Great barrel, cerakote everywhere, super smooth and great trigger.

I know all are good rifles but does anyone have any good reasons to gravitate or stay away from any mentioned.



257WBY
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re: Help me pick a new rifle
Have you ever hunted out West?

What is the longest shot at your current whitetail property?

What are you shooting now?


GREENHEAD22
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Is the Talus new? They renamed the backcountry or something?


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bbvdd
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re: Help me pick a new rifle
Just out of curiosity, why do you not have Tikka in there?

Of those, I’d probably pick Bergara.


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TrueTiger
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re: Help me pick a new rifle
I have no first hand experience with any of those, except the Howa based one, but from my reading they all look solid.

Have you given a look at the Ruger Hawkeye? It's one of the few left with the classic Mauser style controlled feed bolt.




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GrizzlyAlloy
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re: Help me pick a new rifle
CZ 600 Trail


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smoked hog
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re: Help me pick a new rifle
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Just out of curiosity, why do you not have Tikka in there?



Just for some reason didn't want one. If I go that brand I'll eventually step up to a sako for a gentleman's rifle

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Have you ever hunted out West?

What is the longest shot at your current whitetail property?

What are you shooting now


Not yet but my brother is probably moving to northern Arizona and I have access to a cabin in Wyoming. I've done a bit of fishing and backpacking out there, hunting is my next step. I've just been waiting in little smoke to get big enough.

Longest current shot would be 900 yards, but can't use centerfire rifles, slug or muzzleloader only. So I shoot a savage 220. Locally it would be a fun rifle only.

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Is the Talus new
Looks to be the meateater edition minus the branded bottom metal.


LEASTBAY
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re: Help me pick a new rifle
That weatherby looks fantastic. I have a Howa and it's a great shooter.


GREENHEAD22
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re: Help me pick a new rifle
I recently got a Backcountry that I will breaking in on Nilgai this week.


257WBY
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re: Help me pick a new rifle
Unfortunately, a brother and a cabin doesn’t get you tags for those states. You might want to look into the points game before you invest in a rifle.
If you go with a 300, consider using a brake. You will have to carry that rifle for miles, often at high altitude. Consider a rifle on the lighter side.
What has worked well out West for me has been a .257 WBY Ultralight. That rifle has killed antelope, mule deer, one big horn ram, and my son killed an elk with it. My 300 has killed an elk, but it’s really too heavy for Western hunting.


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magicman534
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re: Help me pick a new rifle
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recently got a Backcountry that I will breaking in on Nilgai this week.


I broke in my tikka veil in 300 wsm last week on nilgai. Tough animals for sure. Good luck on your trip.

To OP, I don’t have any of the rifles you mentioned but have several friends with bergaras and they are All very happy with them.


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down time
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re: Help me pick a new rifle
wby mark V accumark.
its stock shape and extra weight are better than a T3x for 300 win.
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smoked hog
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re: Help me pick a new rifle
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Unfortunately, a brother and a cabin doesn’t get you tags for those states. You might want to look into the points game before you invest in a rifle.


I know Arizona is basically pissing in the wind but I should eventually be able to grab some tags for either wyoming or idaho. Mostly using it as an excuse to buy a new rifle. I came from a nonhunting family, I had to start from scratch on all my hunting equipment. I want to set my son out way better off than I was.


257WBY
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re: Help me pick a new rifle
Buy Wyoming points. Antelope is a great way to test out a new rifle.


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Barneyrb
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re: Help me pick a new rifle
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wby mark V accumark


^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^ and get a Weatherby Magnum, not a Win Mag


257WBY
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If you buy an Accumark, buy a donkey to carry it. I love mine, but it’s too heavy for Western hunting.


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calcotron
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^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^ and get a Weatherby Magnum, not a Win Mag


Availability or is it better? I can't decide on what caliber to get next. I'm on 30-06 now and considering sticking with it when I stop using the 65 year old rifle. I should probably make that switch before next season, I fear reliability will come into play and I don't want that to ruin a hunt.


Barneyrb
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If you buy an Accumark, buy a donkey to carry it. I love mine, but it’s too heavy for Western hunting


I don't think so, I carry an Accumark in .300 Wby Mag with a Swaro Z6 on it without any problems, I'm 61 years old so it may start getting heavy in a few years but for now it does just fine.

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Availability or is it better?


Typically a Weatherby Magnum will be 200-400 FPS faster than a "standard" magnum caliber. More speed equals more energy and flatter shooting.


257WBY
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re: Help me pick a new rifle
Trust me. I have an Accumark and a WBY Ultralight. At 10,000’, that Accumark is awful heavy.


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DownshiftAndFloorIt
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re: Help me pick a new rifle
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Typically a Weatherby Magnum will be


$150/box for ammo on the rare occasion you can actually find it, with no variety.

OP is doing the right thing by decided 300 win mag regardless of rifle. MUCH more available than the weatherbys with a massive selection.

OP is making a mistake not getting a Tikka T3 lite though. A Tikka T3 in 300 win mag is probably the best universal use rifle for north America. It's going to be light, it's going to be accurate, it's going to be capable of long range work out of the box.

That said, I don't like the Tikka very much. Not a fan of the clipazine. Winchester model 70 extreme weather SS is my personal favorite general purpose western rifle. Plenty light enough, plenty accurate, and it comes with a good fiberglass stock, hinged floorplate, and great model 70 action.


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