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re: Help me buy my first handgun

Posted on 10/4/19 at 9:39 am to
Posted by dawg23
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jul 2011
5065 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 9:39 am to
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That's the point, it isn't negligible. Going bang is of paramount importance.

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You're acting like there's a huge difference though. Revolvers can mess up too.
Downshift is 100% correct - it isn't negligible if your life depends n the gun going bang.

There are cheap revolvers that are far less reliable than a Ruger or S&W. There are lots of cheap (and quite a few expensive) semi-autos that are far less reliable than an M&P, a SIG, an HK or a Glock.

Anyone considering a handgun for self-defense should get a quality gun. Anything mechanical can fail, but the probability of experiencing a failure can be reduced by selecting a make & model with a proven record of reliability.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71096 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 10:07 am to
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That's the point, it isnt negligible.


Except that it is.

You know, for normal people.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71096 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 10:09 am to
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Downshift is 100% correct


No, he isn't. In 2019, a revolver is no longer the best choice. Hell, in 1989 it wasn't the best choice.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81604 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 10:15 am to
This will be fun.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71096 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 10:27 am to
Probably. People are usually reluctant to admit they don't know what they're talking about.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81604 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 10:32 am to
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30065 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:08 am to
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Probably. People are usually reluctant to admit they don't know what they're talking about.



You can put me in this category of not being anywhere near an expert. Not even mid level. . I just still like what I like. It it was very fun and informative to do the research.

But the guy that said this:
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You need to see which ones feel comfortable in your hand. Then go to a range and shoot them. You probably have a good idea after that...

Is right.

I supposed that includes pistols and revolvers.
This post was edited on 10/4/19 at 11:54 am
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:55 am to
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People are usually reluctant to admit they don't know what they're talking about


I'm sure you'll get around to it one day.

Many people arent going to practice clearing jams unless their gun actually jams. They are going to practice pulling the trigger if they practice anything at all. To operate a revolver, just pull the trigger.

Let's go through some more revolver positives:

-It will function with the barrel jammed against something
-Most can shoot multiple calibers (38/357)
-It will function if it is limp wristed
-It will function if one round is a dud
-Anybody strong enough to pull the trigger can fully operate it
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71096 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:15 pm to
You're still stuck on going bang as the only thing that matters.

Because you don't know what you're talking about.

Like I said...

This was already explained for you. Just read this until you get it.
Posted by dawg23
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jul 2011
5065 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:31 pm to
At the risk of providing voyeuristic pleasure to your sycophant, it should have been pretty clear that I was referring to Downshift's statements that I quoted in my post - and that I was replying to a member who quoted those statements. I'm quite sure I have never claimed that revolvers are the best choice now, or that they were in 1989, or that they were in any year since then.

I'm well aware of your penchant for arguing, but you'll have to do so with someone else. Unless the topic is snake identification - then we could have a debate.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71096 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:46 pm to
I quoted the relevant part of your post and addressed it. If you don't want to defend it, don't. I don't care.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81604 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 1:43 pm to
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but you'll have to do so with someone else.
Dammit
Posted by OSchoenauer
Somewhere south of Bunkie
Member since May 2008
455 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:10 pm to
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Alright. Looking for my first handgun.

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Somebody's gotta knight for the wheel guns around here ?



My $0.02:

If you are new to shooting in general (or handguns in particular), you first need to have something to learn / train with.

IMHO, the ideal trainer for newbies, and for the instruction of women and children, is a Ruger SP-101 in 22LR.

Ammunition is cheap, which removes one excuse for not practicing.

Recoil and noise are [comparatively] minimal, allowing the instructee to concentrate on fundamentals of safety, gunhandling, and marksmanship.

And it's very easy to verify that a double-action revolver is unloaded -- an important thing for the uninitiated.

Once basic good habits have become ingrained, it’s a lot easier to transition to something bigger.

And you get the added bonus of ending up with two guns, instead of one.





This post was edited on 10/4/19 at 2:24 pm
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
13436 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:37 pm to
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Glock 18 /thread


Posted by Sparty3131
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2019
641 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:49 pm to
They are not the cheapest. But a 1911 in .45 acp has been the King of Semi-Autos for over 100 years. The clips hold less rounds than a 9mm. But so much more knockdown power. My wife shoots my full sized S&W 1911 TA as good, if not better than me. See how they fit your hands.
This post was edited on 10/4/19 at 2:50 pm
Posted by Moondawg2565
Member since Sep 2019
42 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:51 pm to
CDNNSPORTS.COM has the Sig Sauer P320 9mm for $399. Cant beat it!
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:52 pm to
Except this is 2019.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:52 pm to
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CDNNSPORTS.COM has the Sig Sauer P320 9mm for $399. Cant beat it!

The M&P 2 Compact is cheaper.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71096 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 8:07 pm to
Better than a revolver.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 8:13 pm to
There are guns, and then there is working art.



The .45 Colt is never a mistake
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