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re: Help me buy my first handgun
Posted on 10/3/19 at 1:45 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Posted on 10/3/19 at 1:45 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:I've seen revolvers malfunction twice with hp ammo. Both had to be sent to the factory. (When a revolver jams, this is usually what's required.)
Every semi auto I have ever owned has jammed at least once. I have never jammed a revolver and have only seen it happen once, with ratshot.
When semi-autos malfunction, they can usually be returned to service in about 2 seconds (a simple TRB will clear 80-90% of malfunctions - the remainder require dropping the mag before racking the slide).
I have semi-autos with 1000's of rounds thru them that ain't jammed yet.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:29 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
You cant come up with a real reason why they arent, or why the self shuckers are better.
We have been through this too many times on here, but sure let's do it again. A revolver is more reliable than a semi. It's hard to argue that, BUT modern semi auto pistols are extremely reliable. You can see that during the Army's testing of the Sig M17 and Glock MHS. If I remember right they both went 12,000 rounds without a malfunction.
So with reliability being negligible, the next thing would be ammo capacity and ease of reloading. Having 17 rounds on you compared to 6 is the difference maker between the two. I don't know about you, but if I have to get up at night and check around my house for a crackhead or two I want 17 rounds. I don't want to hope that I can make 6 rounds count in a high stress situation, at night, against some drugged up perps.
Then if you happen to miss and run out of ammo, or make your hits and don't put the guy down you have to reload. Even with a speed loader a revolver takes at least three times longer to reload.
As Bapple said, there is a reason all LEO and military have semi autos and not revolvers. I don't care if they are in "offensive" situations as you said. I'd rather have the equipment to be offensive AND defensive. You never know what situation you will be in.
All that said. I do have several revolvers and I love them, but I don't have them for protection. I have better guns for that.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:42 pm to Dr. Morgus
Sorry man. But start with a G19 or a sw m&m 2.0 compact.
Be sure you like it and don’t buy another brand. Then in two years get another.
Then you can buy x10 of one kind of magazine
I’m a novice gunner but have 25 mags for my glocks. I would hate to have to buy 25 mags for another 9mm.
Be sure you like it and don’t buy another brand. Then in two years get another.
Then you can buy x10 of one kind of magazine
I’m a novice gunner but have 25 mags for my glocks. I would hate to have to buy 25 mags for another 9mm.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:46 pm to bapple
What Bapple said!
"Stick with a reputable manufacturer and see what feels best."
For me it's an H&K VP9 or P30l have them both.They both feel and shoot great for me.
"Stick with a reputable manufacturer and see what feels best."
For me it's an H&K VP9 or P30l have them both.They both feel and shoot great for me.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:47 pm to biggsc
And yes. I love the LCP for pocket summer carry
Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:53 pm to dstone12
quote:
And yes. I love the LCP for pocket summer carry
Especially when at the beach, lake, farm, etc
Posted on 10/3/19 at 4:39 pm to Dr. Morgus
quote:
Just Something I can have for home protection and easy to carry in my vehicle.
Glock 45 if you won't carry it concealed. Glock 19 if you think you might. Get one with the AmeriGlo night sights, put an X300 on it, and shoot it. A lot.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 5:42 pm to jdavid1
quote:
So with reliability being negligible,
That's the point, it isnt negligible. Going bang is of paramount importance.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 5:47 pm to Dr. Morgus
S&W M&P 2.0 Compact in 9mm. Easy to find new for $375 and it's a Glock killer for sure.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 5:49 pm to dstone12
quote:
But start with a G19 or a sw m&m 2.0 compact.
Can't go wrong with either but the M&P is so much cheaper and also comes stock with steel sights.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 5:53 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
That's the point, it isnt negligible. Going bang is of paramount importance.
You're acting like there's a huge difference though. Revolvers can mess up too.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 6:56 pm to Korin
quote:
Can't go wrong with either but the M&P is so much cheaper and also comes stock with steel sights.
Agree. But I bought glock first, so now I am married to her.
Sw grip angle feels better but the mp wasn’t quite out yet and so I commenced glock.
Aside from time tested reputation; One thing that made me go glock was low bore axis. It really means nothing but I was looking at trying to find anything to make me pick.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 7:32 pm to Dr. Morgus
Wow, thanks for all the responses.
Just slowly starting my shopping. Looking for a range where I might be able to shoot some of these on the Northshore (Slidell to Mandeville). Does Bass Pro have an indoor range where you can test anything?
Today I did look at the G19, saw it for $555 but I’ll shop around.
Also looked at the G43x, a little smaller than the 19 in case I do decide to cc. Any experience with the G43x? A little cheaper at $460
I’m not too worried about price. Want something reliable
Just slowly starting my shopping. Looking for a range where I might be able to shoot some of these on the Northshore (Slidell to Mandeville). Does Bass Pro have an indoor range where you can test anything?
Today I did look at the G19, saw it for $555 but I’ll shop around.
Also looked at the G43x, a little smaller than the 19 in case I do decide to cc. Any experience with the G43x? A little cheaper at $460
I’m not too worried about price. Want something reliable
This post was edited on 10/3/19 at 7:33 pm
Posted on 10/3/19 at 8:00 pm to Dr. Morgus
Are you going to carry it? I'd stay away from the 43x if you aren't.
Also, are you by chance a veteran? You can get a Blue Label Glock until Veterans Day if you are.
Also, are you by chance a veteran? You can get a Blue Label Glock until Veterans Day if you are.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 8:46 pm to Dr. Morgus
quote:
oes Bass Pro have an indoor range where you can test anything
Unless something has changed, no. Precision in baton rouge used to have a good selection of stuff you could rent, maybe try them? If you have a friend who is a gun junkie, odds are theyll have at least some flavor of glock you can try.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 9:02 pm to Dr. Morgus
Posted on 10/3/19 at 9:07 pm to Dr. Morgus
I conceal carry g19 as well as a kahr cm9. The wife carries a 43. We have not had any issues with any of them. One thing I can say is that find myself carrying the Kahr single stack 6 round mag more than the 19 due to the weight and size and will probably look at a 43x or a g48 for my next carry gun.
Single stack with ten rounds I think would be perfect for me. A spare mag or spare extend mag carried in a front pocket would be 20+ rounds.
Single stack with ten rounds I think would be perfect for me. A spare mag or spare extend mag carried in a front pocket would be 20+ rounds.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 9:16 pm to Ol boy
All I will carry is my Kahr. I haven't held any of the larger ones though. Made in USA also.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 9:27 pm to Dr. Morgus
If you live in the Baton Rouge area I’d be happy to let you test out a few of the full sized 9mms I own. Most of them range from $350-$500 which is reasonably-priced for something you want to stake your life on.
Don’t cheap out on this purchase - the gun will outlive you and you may need it to save that life which it will outlive.
Don’t cheap out on this purchase - the gun will outlive you and you may need it to save that life which it will outlive.
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