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Posted on 4/13/24 at 9:21 pm
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
9335 posts
Posted on 4/13/24 at 9:21 pm
I've heard that the Mexican cartels and Haitian gangs get most of their guns from the US.

How does that work? I would think if I were buying a dozen ARs at a time that would attract attention?

And then how do you get them thru the checkpoints? you aren't carrying a dozen ARs thru some river crossing, they gotta be flown or trucked.

Same question for Haiti, how do large quantities of guns get bought here without raising flags?

I'm just curious, not looking for a side gig.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14022 posts
Posted on 4/13/24 at 9:31 pm to
Fast and Furious
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30734 posts
Posted on 4/13/24 at 9:34 pm to
quote:

How does that work?


Straw purchase. Give someone money and they go buy a gun.

It's the same thing they do with cell phones, find the person with the best credit. Go to a store and get like 7 lines with free phones and sell those phones for cash. Certain people give no shots about their credit or anything.
Posted by subMOA
Komatipoort
Member since Jan 2010
1706 posts
Posted on 4/13/24 at 9:37 pm to
Where there’s a will (or a lot of money), there’s a way- I think is the best way to sum it up.
Posted by subMOA
Komatipoort
Member since Jan 2010
1706 posts
Posted on 4/13/24 at 9:39 pm to
I think the part that we mere mortals don’t understand is that there is so much money to be made in illicit activities, that normal hurdles are overcome quite easily.
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired
Member since Feb 2019
4558 posts
Posted on 4/13/24 at 10:21 pm to
Going from the US in Mexico, you go through Mexican customs, just about anything goes, especially with a couple dollars slipped in the pocket of a customs official.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
18737 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 6:13 am to
From a Washington Post article about Haiti's gangs getting guns from the US:

quote:

Traffickers are taking advantage of Miami’s “break-bulk” port, a miles-long stretch of the Miami River lined with freighters that carry cargo that’s broken into individual items rather than transported in containers. Haitians in Florida use them to send rice, beans and other supplies home to loved ones.

When the freighters are loaded up, Salisbury said, they resemble a “giant, floating secondhand store” — and are notoriously difficult to search.

“We could get very solid investigative information that there was a load of weapons on a Haitian freighter,” he said. “It would take us weeks to unpack and look for it, and we still may not find it.”


Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
23887 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 6:51 am to
How do the drugs get to the US? Put stolen guns in for the trip back.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
Coaching Changes Board
Member since Jan 2014
27216 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 7:10 am to
Pretty hard to smuggle an AR into Mexico in your butthole.
This post was edited on 4/14/24 at 7:11 am
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24960 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 7:34 am to
You think millions of pounds of drugs are smuggled in through people’s buttholes?

There are tunnels throughout the border that they use They use boats, submarine type boats, etc.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
Coaching Changes Board
Member since Jan 2014
27216 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 7:35 am to
It was a joke. It’s ok to chuckle.
Posted by zuluboudreaux
God’s country USA
Member since Jan 2008
669 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 7:40 am to
Where there’s a will (or a lot of money), there’s a way- I think is the best way to sum it up.

Nope, where there’s a will……..there’s a greedy relative waiting for you to die.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24960 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 7:47 am to
quote:

It was a joke. It’s ok to chuckle.


Sorry, still pissed about the price of fertilizer

??
Posted by DownSouthJukin
Coaching Changes Board
Member since Jan 2014
27216 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 9:25 am to
quote:

Sorry, still pissed about the price of fertilizer


Maybe you can smuggle some fertilizer in from Mexico in your butthole.

This post was edited on 4/14/24 at 10:24 am
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19249 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 9:38 am to
With the southern boarders wide open it's not hard to move stuff back and forth.

They've been doing it for 100 years, now it's just easier.

If they can move drugs and money back and forth they can move guns.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
5803 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 11:10 am to
kinda clueless comment. The worst thing to do at any border crossing is to offer money to an agent . You will be on video and held in jail till trial that you will not like
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30113 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

When the freighters are loaded up, Salisbury said, they resemble a “giant, floating secondhand store” — and are notoriously difficult to search.


So, like, just put official inspectors in there that search while the vessels are being loaded.

They want this stuff to get there
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10929 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 2:47 pm to
quote:


If they can move drugs and money back and forth they can move guns.
Like in the Tom Cruise movie.
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
4049 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 6:12 pm to
quote:

I've heard that the Mexican cartels and Haitian gangs get most of their guns from the US.


Discovery/MAX has a show called “Contraband” where they just follow people that work at the border crossing. They are always finding guns that prople are trying to smuggle to Mexico. What’s crazy is that a large amount of the guns they seize are just regular wood stock hunting rifles.

The ARs they find are typically disassembled to make them easier to smuggle across.


Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
17676 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 6:16 pm to
Maybe if they walk in fill out 4473 and they run it and it’s not flagged for an American adjudicated crime it’s a clean purchase maybe? That’s what the government wants to probably happen. Then they can say see look!
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