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re: Flyway Federation of Louisiana?
Posted on 1/8/19 at 1:58 pm to Howard Juneau
Posted on 1/8/19 at 1:58 pm to Howard Juneau
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Ducks Unlimited ties weights to ducks feet so they can't fly past the Arkansas - Missouri line.
Damn. straight from the source fellas.
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:19 pm to Tigah D
Well, I know Larry Reynolds better than anyone here.... I can for sure guarantee that. And for the ones here defending him I can also for sure guarantee you don't know him or you would not take that stance. Just because he came to your banquet, you shook his hand at a show, or you was at the same lodge as him that weekend don't put you in his circle.
The man simply is not telling Louisiana the truth. He has been called on it more than once now and crawfishes and changes the topic. His job is to say what needs saying to keep $$$ signs in Louisiana. Bet not a one of you know the under table deals that Nungesser(tourism commission) makes with DU and Larry to make sure he puts out the right information. Keep on sipping the Larry koolaide baws. One day when you wise and look back on this your gonna see what im telling you. The man is not Honest.
As far as the migration. Yes flooded grain fields that are not normal agriculture practices throughout the Midwest play a significant role in our numbers. just simply cant be denied. But it is not the only factor. One of a bunch that need attention. Problem I see is DU DW are blind to ALL the said problems
The man simply is not telling Louisiana the truth. He has been called on it more than once now and crawfishes and changes the topic. His job is to say what needs saying to keep $$$ signs in Louisiana. Bet not a one of you know the under table deals that Nungesser(tourism commission) makes with DU and Larry to make sure he puts out the right information. Keep on sipping the Larry koolaide baws. One day when you wise and look back on this your gonna see what im telling you. The man is not Honest.
As far as the migration. Yes flooded grain fields that are not normal agriculture practices throughout the Midwest play a significant role in our numbers. just simply cant be denied. But it is not the only factor. One of a bunch that need attention. Problem I see is DU DW are blind to ALL the said problems
Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:15 pm to Boat Motor Bandit
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Yes flooded grain fields that are not normal agriculture practices
This gets thrown around way too much by the FFL group. Show me in the CES guidance where it defines "normal agricultural practices" for the termination of a crop. That is what flooding is doing. No where does anyone say you have to harvest a crop. They planted it, and followed the law as far as what they did to hunt it.
I realize the FFL doesn't like the law as it is, but tough shite. The original MBTA was not detailed enough to actually enforce.
Hell, let's go back to the old way and just call croplands what they are--baited fields. Regardless of whether it was harvested or not, there is grain in the field that draws the ducks in. Ban it!
Then let's see how happy these fools are when you can't hunt a flooded rice or bean field.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 5:20 pm to Cowboyfan89
Yea I highlighted in the regulations where it says that as for hunting, FWS will not make the determination whether a field is planted to be harvested or left unharvested. As long as it’s planted right, you are good to go.
BMB— you sound like one helluva friend for Larry to have! Do you tell him when you see him that he is full of shite? I mean since his “estimates” are taken as straight counts by the FFL
BMB— you sound like one helluva friend for Larry to have! Do you tell him when you see him that he is full of shite? I mean since his “estimates” are taken as straight counts by the FFL
Posted on 1/8/19 at 6:44 pm to headedwest21
Boat motor bandit have u ever even been to the Midwest?
Posted on 1/8/19 at 7:45 pm to choupiquesushi
Im going to make a safe assumption that he hasnt, and that he is ill-aware if the fact that the midwest is struggling just like we are find and stay on birds. Also, how can you say that Larry is cooking the books. That makes no sense man. The november duck count painted a perfect picture for the duck season to come. Larry literally said this is twice as low as the lowest bird count on record. Wtf are you smoking man? How is that supposed to boost duck license purchases? You come on here and say you know he’s a bad man but give zero evidence. I learned In 9th grade english that if you make a claim you have to back it up. So tell me why I need to hate this guy.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 8:23 pm to miramon
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:04 am to headedwest21
I’ll stretch my neck out here because I know y’all gonna try and chop it off. All that is really needed is one sentence added to the treaty.
“Unnaturally flooded, unharvested crops is considered baiting and cannot be used for waterfowl hunting”.
And for those that speak of rice. Rice is flooded AFTER harvest.
“Unnaturally flooded, unharvested crops is considered baiting and cannot be used for waterfowl hunting”.
And for those that speak of rice. Rice is flooded AFTER harvest.
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:06 am to Sacalait54
quote:ok.. but there is not enough of those type of crops to affect the migration... it's not nearly as much as people make out to be..
“Unnaturally flooded, unharvested crops is considered baiting and cannot be used for waterfowl hunting”.
And for those that speak of rice. Rice is flooded AFTER harvest.
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:51 am to choupiquesushi
Of course the company I work for has jobs all thru, MO, KS, NE, Ok, IL, IN and into the Dakotas. I can make phone calls and in an hour tell you where the ducks are. KS and Oklahoma is where they are like it or not. MO and Il is holding there own. Anywhere south of that is scattered population. Its been this way since November. Its been this way for a few years, Its been this way for two decades now. Only exception to that is Arkansas is now starting to feel what the gulf coast has for a long time. Stuttgart just like Gueydan is about to give up that crown on duck capital of the world.
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:52 am to headedwest21
headedwest21 you know for a fact I do. It has strained a life long relationship. But like any true friend should. I tell him what he don't want to hear.
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:55 am to Boat Motor Bandit
quote:been there... drove through both states.. saw it with my own eyes.. didn't see hardly any flooded standing crops..but I saw mallards in damn near every reservoir or stock tank for 400 miles.... and then feeding in the dry fields.. i've seen this coming for a long time and our issues here are helping it...
KS and Oklahoma is where they are like it or not
i'll just either relocate or spend more time hunting there..
hunted all public land... all good hunts...
This post was edited on 1/9/19 at 9:56 am
Posted on 1/9/19 at 10:01 am to choupiquesushi
Shoe pick, I can show you thousands of acres of flooded and hunted crop in both states. And it ain't in eye shot of an interstate or a hwy. It will make you sick to see the vast amount. Has been that way for better part of 10 years
Posted on 1/9/19 at 10:08 am to Boat Motor Bandit
show me... i spent more miles off paved roads than on interstates....
damn near every harvested field had enough feed laying exposed to feed every duck ive killed in my life for a year... just like what i saw in SD 20 years ago...
no till is the real culprit and it ain't going no where.
damn near every harvested field had enough feed laying exposed to feed every duck ive killed in my life for a year... just like what i saw in SD 20 years ago...
no till is the real culprit and it ain't going no where.
This post was edited on 1/9/19 at 10:12 am
Posted on 1/9/19 at 10:11 am to Sacalait54
quote:
“Unnaturally flooded, unharvested crops is considered baiting and cannot be used for waterfowl hunting”. And for those that speak of rice. Rice is flooded AFTER harvest.
What about second crop? Are you going to say because its a natural regrowth? But its still "unnaturally flooded". Then the boys up there will plant millet, cut it down early and let it regrow "naturally", and hammer the ducks in 50 degree weather in January.
This is pretty good front pushing through with good amount of snow called for Missouri. If big push of birds come down with this one, what is gonna be the reason? I know all the corn didn't just get eaten up in one day.
Posted on 1/9/19 at 10:24 am to choupiquesushi
Ill agree with you on no till. It has wrecked havoc as well.
Posted on 1/9/19 at 10:32 am to Boat Motor Bandit
quote:like about a 20 million to 1 ratio of duck holding ability to those flooded ag fields...
Ill agree with you on no till. It has wrecked havoc as well.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 6:48 am to headedwest21
Rice flooded after harvest has been a normal ag practice for since rice has been cultivated as an ag crop. Corn only needs to be “irrigated”; by that I mean setting poly pipe on the highest part of the field and is allowed to trickle down the furrows. Levees around a cornfield used to be used to KEEP WATER OUT of a low lying field to protect against flood waters. If they want to flood harvested corn; they can flood all they want; I could give a rat’s behind. But you see if any corn was left after harvest, it wouldn’t last as long under water.
Why else do you think they flood standing corn. It NEVER deteriorates. They even drain the fields the minute the season is over and go in and harvest it if there’s any sufficient corn left. They have perfected every aspect of this “duck holding” practice. This is actually the new way of “legal baiting”. Why else so many people criticize anyone that mentions doing away with the practice. They either gain from the practice personally or financially. And they have the nerve to call this “duck habitat”! They are harvesting a natural resource by unethical means. It’s really as close to shooting “flighted” ducks as can be. These guys are laughing all the way to the bank.
Why else do you think they flood standing corn. It NEVER deteriorates. They even drain the fields the minute the season is over and go in and harvest it if there’s any sufficient corn left. They have perfected every aspect of this “duck holding” practice. This is actually the new way of “legal baiting”. Why else so many people criticize anyone that mentions doing away with the practice. They either gain from the practice personally or financially. And they have the nerve to call this “duck habitat”! They are harvesting a natural resource by unethical means. It’s really as close to shooting “flighted” ducks as can be. These guys are laughing all the way to the bank.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 7:52 am to Sacalait54
quote:how many acres of standing corn are flooded.. facts not your over nicotenated-caffieneated hurt feeling opine..... but facts... Not even 1% of what you are thinking and NOT enough to actually HOLD ducks... take your prozac and move along..... BTW... I limited this morning in east baton rouge parish and just made it to work on time.... no spoonies.. no teal....god bless the high river
Rice flooded after harvest has been a normal ag practice for since rice has been cultivated as an ag crop. Corn only needs to be “irrigated”; by that I mean setting poly pipe on the highest part of the field and is allowed to trickle down the furrows. Levees around a cornfield used to be used to KEEP WATER OUT of a low lying field to protect against flood waters. If they want to flood harvested corn; they can flood all they want; I could give a rat’s behind. But you see if any corn was left after harvest, it wouldn’t last as long under water.
Why else do you think they flood standing corn. It NEVER deteriorates. They even drain the fields the minute the season is over and go in and harvest it if there’s any sufficient corn left. They have perfected every aspect of this “duck holding” practice. This is actually the new way of “legal baiting”. Why else so many people criticize anyone that mentions doing away with the practice. They either gain from the practice personally or financially. And they have the nerve to call this “duck habitat”! They are harvesting a natural resource by unethical means. It’s really as close to shooting “flighted” ducks as can be. These guys are laughing all the way to the bank.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 8:22 am to choupiquesushi
Pic or it didn't happen!
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