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Cowboyfan89
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Flyway Federation of Louisiana?
Anyone heard of these fellas? Apparently it's a new group aimed at uniting Louisiana waterfowlers for a common cause, although they don't seem to be clear on what that is.

All I can gather is that they are concerned with going after all the things we always hear about--flooded corn, ice eaters, and northern refuges.

Basically sounds like they are trying to get a bunch of baws together to make northern states change their ways.


eyepooted
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re: Flyway Federation of Louisiana?
I haven’t heard of them. They’re gonna have a long row to hoe if they think they’re gonna get states to pass laws to make less money.


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choupiquesushi
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re: Flyway Federation of Louisiana?
Basically sounds like they are trying to get a bunch of baws together to make northern states change their ways. :rotflmao: :rotflmao:


even if guys up north (and subsequently down here) are banned from hunting in standing ag crops.... there is still no till farming... and the fact that standing crops could be left to hold but not hunt ducks..

refusing to acknowledge that severely degraded habitat here and drastically changing land use practices here are a huge part of the equation is short sighted at best - our side of the street in this is by no means the cleanest side.



one simply has to look at canada geese on the east coast to see waterfowl will adapt and change when land use practice change to give them a better deal.....
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Cowboyfan89
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re: Flyway Federation of Louisiana?
Reading their Facebook group is pretty good. Not much discussion, but a couple of fellas just keep going on and on about how hunting over floodes corn fields is illegal (it's not) because it's not a normal agricultural operation. Then another ole boy started challenging them about how it's no different than hunting over a flooded 2nd rice crop.

Apparently rice fields (you know, ag land) are considered providing habitat and conservation, while flooded corn fields are not. You know, one ag field is and one ag field isn't, even though both are providing food and cover...lmao!

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They’re gonna have a long row to hoe if they think they’re gonna get states to pass laws to make less money.

No shit, huh?! A bunch of whiny duck hunters from Louisiana are going to go to the feds and get a law changed that hasn't changed in decades. Sure, ok.

I mean, it sucks what has happened to Louisiana duck hunting, but man, this just sounds like a bunch of whiny liberals.
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Ron Cheramie
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re: Flyway Federation of Louisiana?
They don't realize that no one north of us gives one shite about us killing ducks down here


Cowboyfan89
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re: Flyway Federation of Louisiana?
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They don't realize that no one north of us gives one shite about us killing ducks down here

Right.

Don't get me wrong, I commend them for trying to do something they believe in. Many have talked about it, and few have ever tried to do anything.

But it's a fool's errand. Going up against multiple states, multiple user groups, the federal government, and likely DU just doesn't stand much of a chance if you only have 100k or so from a few southern states pushing it.


Psavmd
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re: Flyway Federation of Louisiana?
I think these guys are on to something substantial. I would not bash them too hard. At least someone is finally getting off their arse and try. I'm joining.


Ron Cheramie
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re: Flyway Federation of Louisiana?
Joined the group last week. They have a lot to figure out. They don't really know what they are fighting for. They seem most mad about baiting regs particularly up north of us. They are looking at what defines normal agriculture practices and flooding corn isn't normal. But neither is flooding rice after harvest. May shoot themselves in foot.

And they are also questioning the duck counts. Saying the numbers aren't adding up

A couple decent arguments on there but then as in every group you have a few village idiots

Been entertaining


Tigah D
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re: Flyway Federation of Louisiana?
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Been entertaining


Watching from the sidelines for the foreseeable. Wasn't the brightest move to go alienating state waterfowl personnel as if they're all out to sabotage our hunting. Huge uphill battle for them, but again, props for getting fired up to at least attempt taking action.


Ron Cheramie
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re: Flyway Federation of Louisiana?
Yeah they are starting to take it too far with that shite.

They need to figure out just what in the hell they want to accomplish instead of just being mad at everything


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Ron Cheramie
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re: Flyway Federation of Louisiana?
Dude is going off the rails pretty quick. Has banned anyone that disagrees with him and brought it over to ducksouth which don't seem to agree with him over there. Bashing everybody

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dwr353
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re: Flyway Federation of Louisiana?
He is fighting a losing battle. There is no way that hunters up north will ever agree to stop using ice eaters and other methods to kill birds. It sucks for us in La., but greed and money have joined forces to enable those Yankees to short-stop ducks the same way they did Canada Geese. Specklebellies are now following the same pattern. We in La. will still kill early migrants, but Mallard hunting is now basically finished except for extreme cold weather events. What we can do is stop all donations to groups that create habitat for any purpose other than on the breeding grounds. I for one will not donate money to a group that spends large amounts of money on private property to create hunting opportunities for a select few in the name of creating "Wintering habitat". For those who wish to continue doing so, that is your business.


Boat Motor Bandit
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re: Flyway Federation of Louisiana?
Land owners north of Louisiana finally got smart after decades of ducks flying over them to get to us. They figured a way to slow them down and keep them longer and its legal. Nothing will change that. With Farmers in Louisiana not buying into those same practices of leaving crops standing, major losses in overall crop acreage in our state and coastal erosion over the last 40 years. No amount of money or legislation will overcome those failures. Its a money pit that will never recover. Sorry but that is straight facts. Don't hate the player hate the game. Do not blame those northern land owners one bit. They seized a money maker that we took for granted


dwr353
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re: Flyway Federation of Louisiana?
I am not hating on anyone. We are both stating the same thing. I am just finished donating to groups that work against my self-interest. I also choose to not patronize private businesses that employ those tactics. I for one will continue to hunt ducks and kill every one that I get a chance to. By the way, Teal and Wood Ducks are better eating than Mallards anyway.


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Cowboyfan89
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re: Flyway Federation of Louisiana?
He's a prick. Called me a troll for disagreeing with him (because it's impossible to be anything but a troll if you disagree with him).

He also can't interpret law for shit, and the saddest thing si, he's getting people that also can't interpret law to believe him.

Dude is the prototypical Louisiana duck hunter--uneducated, loud-mouthed, and hates everything about the north.

Just a moron, plain and simple.


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maisweh
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re: Flyway Federation of Louisiana?

Dis gone be gud


Cowboyfan89
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re: Flyway Federation of Louisiana?
I had one of their admins message me when I said "no", and gave my reasoning.

He was curious why I do not oppose flooding crops because it had been a "hot topic".

"Hot Topic"? It's the only topic those guys are concerned with!! And they "normal agricultural operation" applies to everything in the Migratory Bird hunting regulations, when it does not.

But it's like talking to a brick wall. They don't have the commom sense to accomplish anything. It's all or nothing with FFL, and that isn't going to fly in the political spectrum, pun intended.


Tigah D
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re: Flyway Federation of Louisiana?
Have been watching this whole thing from the sidelines a while now, and will remain on the sidelines. As some have mentioned, this cat is just going about it the wrong way, alienating some that could be of help, being LOUD and presenting an uneducated, unorganized front. I understand where the frustration is coming from, and he/they mean well, but you got to settle the flip down and carefully plan any attempt at change.

And one of their biggest arguments is showing all these videos from February and early March saying that "they're just now getting down here, our season is too early, we need to hunt in Feb and March, etc. etc."


Cowboyfan89
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re: Flyway Federation of Louisiana?
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And one of their biggest arguments is showing all these videos from February and early March saying that "they're just now getting down here, our season is too early, we need to hunt in Feb and March, etc. etc."


First sign of someone that doesn't know what they are talking about is comments like this. The birds didn't just show up...they just weren't on that field because they were getting shot at all season long. If you decided next year not to hunt that field, but otherwise manage it the same way, the birds would be all over it.

But try explaining that to Mr. Goins and his band of brainiacs.


dayne o
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re: Flyway Federation of Louisiana?
I was in that group. Never commented on anything the whole time. Then a topic came up about crop insurance and how payments are made. Josh Goins posted some false information trying to pass it off as a fact because his buddy “told him so”. I simply stated the facts of how it really works and got called a socialist. Basically him and one of his sheep argued me even though I am a claims adjuster for a very large AIP. I was trying to give factual info and got blasted for it and got told to fk off. Got booted in the process. They aren’t going to gain support by spreading lies and then standing by them as fact when someone calls them out on it. Bunch of crying is basically all that goes on in there.


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