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re: Flyway Federation of Louisiana?

Posted on 1/7/19 at 6:25 pm to
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12718 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 6:25 pm to
Just a quick check in on our favorite delusional waterfowlers...someone posted asking why anyone in Louisiana wouldn't support the cause.

Apparently he doesn't realize that nonbelievers aren't even allowed in their little group, thus, they cannot answer...lmao!
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19498 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 6:48 pm to
Do the folks trying to make these changes hunt up north? Have they spent time there duck hunting? I can tell you my place in southern Illinois is almost totally dependent on two things. Weather and water. This season has been warm and coupled with flooding of the Little Wabash and Skillet Fork, what ducks we've had have been scattered badly.

Point is, regardless of where you hunt ducks, you're going to see changes in numbers. And BTW, there are few clubs/leases that are killing the number of birds they did 20 or 30 years ago.

The operations that I know of that are killing consistent daily limits now are located in areas that weren't normally believed to be very good duck habitat.

I can tell you, as most in this thread can, that it's more about habitat and less about what is going on up north. There are way too many things that can be done in Louisiana than to start pointing fingers at other hunters/areas.

Also, DU and their lobbyist will do everything to protect Illinois. Membership numbers/money is too lucrative to do anything to hurt those folks.
Posted by eyepooted
Member since Jul 2010
5717 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 8:15 pm to
I find it interesting that the majority of people on here are bashing him but it seems like at the very root of his cause most people agree with him. They just don’t agree with his method.
Posted by Elusiveporpi
Below I-10
Member since Feb 2011
2575 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 8:52 pm to
Over the last few years I have also noticed the decline in ducks in LA. I also here there are low numbers everywhere. I’m haven’t done the research that several of you have on this thread. Can anyone tell me via bird count/ fly over/kill numbers etc where the birds went or stayed?
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13905 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 9:32 pm to
quote:

I find it interesting that the majority of people on here are bashing him but it seems like at the very root of his cause most people agree with him. They just don’t agree with his method.
. I agree with the dude that the ducks don't come like they used to. I DO NOT agree that flooded corn north of us, or anywhere has much to do with that situation.

I definitely DO NOT agree that talking shite about others that are currently successful will result in any benefit to La duck hunters. I appreciate the dudes energy but it is mis-directed.
This post was edited on 1/7/19 at 9:35 pm
Posted by Syrupncats
Member since Nov 2018
24 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:39 am to
They talk about southern pride but the way they treat Larry doesn’t represent that. Larry is a great guy that is definitely a positive for Louisiana duck hunting and has more and will do more for it than anyone in that group especially the leaders. Bunch of uneducated truck nut baws

. Whenever something bad happens “it’s a God Damn Conspiracy!” these days and it’s getting really old.
This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 12:42 am
Posted by eyepooted
Member since Jul 2010
5717 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:35 am to
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o. I DO NOT agree that flooded corn north of us, or anywhere has much to do with that situation.


What in your opinion is the cause of the lack of migration?

I feel that it is incredibly shortsighted to try and boil down the lack of the migration to one cause. I do think “short-stopping” is a part of the equation.
Posted by eyepooted
Member since Jul 2010
5717 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:39 am to
quote:

the way they treat Larry


I’m not defending their actions or the way they have treated Larry. I will say that I see where they are coming from. They treated Larry the way they did because they felt like they were being lied to(and they are) by LDWF, DU and Delta.
Posted by headedwest21
Member since Dec 2016
1109 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 6:26 am to
I’ve said from the beginning that yes, the corn is prob helping hold some ducks. But ducks have to get more nutrition that just corn. But their tactics of bashing everyone is going to get them nowhere. I think they finally accepted the fact that hunting cornfields is legal. The groups they bash aren’t built to help Louisiana hunters smash the ducks everyday. They are CONSERVATION groups.

There are just way to many other factors I believe more important to migration change. Hell its gonna be 80* today. One question I asked to them that’s never been answered...if it’s all corns fault then why is nothing but blue wings still in south Louisiana?
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19609 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 6:45 am to
It wouldn't surprise me if duck numbers get fudged bu DU, a lot of $ on the line.
Posted by Syrupncats
Member since Nov 2018
24 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 6:46 am to
Lying about what? The amount of ducks in Louisiana???? It’s s god damn conspiracy I tell ya!!!!

Also a few things-
This years weather has been unseasonably warm

Every single state in our flyaway has optimal water conditions, the last time this happened was mid 1990’s.

Birds go rest in the gulf now due to all the baws and their mud motors riding every single piece of marsh looking for ducks.

Ag practices have expanded out west

Ag practices north of us have changed

All of these are some of the reasons why this year has been really tough

This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 6:57 am
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5143 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 7:11 am to
quote:

lied to by LDWF


they and you have to realize that these numbers are estimates they are not hard numbers there is NO way to count every single duck out there

harvest numbers are NOT exact either

Larry has tried to explain that to then but they will not listen they just bash him

all these numbers are estimates that have been estimated the same way each year which shows trends
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5143 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 7:14 am to
it is a very wet and warm year just as predicted
there is water in every pothole in louisiana and way up the flyway as well

check the weather this last week north of us all the way to Canada
Posted by Howard Juneau
Cocodrie, LA
Member since Nov 2007
2218 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 7:23 am to
Ducks Unlimited ties weights to ducks feet so they can't fly past the Arkansas - Missouri line.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30614 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 7:39 am to
quote:

I DO NOT agree that flooded corn north of us, or anywhere has much to do with that situation
the economics of it simply do not match up for flooding enough standing crops to "hold" a migration. That's like everyone in a major city surviving on fast food alone... no grocery stores, no real restaurants.... simply not enough...

now the leftover grain from today's farm practices... and RESERVOIRS that don't freeze.. different story.

bottom line since 1985 our habitat has regressed by 60% in my opine... and the habitat north of us has improved by 60%.... that duck has finally come home to roost...


add to that the dramatically increased human traffic in dang near every square inch of suitable habitat save for refuges... and our habitat continues to degrade....



ban hunting in flooded standing crops... then when ducks still don't come what.. or when they do they gang up on flooded crop areas that can't be hunted...
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30614 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 7:44 am to
quote:


Just a quick check in on our favorite delusional waterfowlers...someone posted asking why anyone in Louisiana wouldn't support the cause.

Apparently he doesn't realize that nonbelievers aren't even allowed in their little group, thus, they cannot answer...lmao!

I ran into one of these guys sat.. OH my...I learned I am an idiot and don't know anything about waterfowl on a micro or macro scale.... I asked old boy have you ever been compensated to manage waterfowl habitat..... the silence was golden...

we need to fix our issues in LA so that when the ducks do get here.. they 1. have places to eat, 2. Places to rest. 3... enough food and habitat to do the above at will...


what these fellas aren't seeing is that xyz corp that has 2k acres... instead of putting 25 - 30 blinds on it and huntig 7 days a week is putting 12 blinds on it and hunting 4 days a week and leaving 1/3 or more of their area as a resting area... plus... they are letting their ducks REST there... not riding around all day bumping them. or all night
Posted by Tigah D
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
1408 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:48 pm to
Glad to see some realize it in this thread....the impact of every baw with his mud motor is the real deal. I can't tell you how many times I hear of references of "lets just go take a ride" which includes crossing everyone else's leases to get (roundabout) to their own. And not quiet, as you all know, it's loud AF (gotta have them kits, baw!). And then wonder why no ducks on their marsh?
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30614 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 1:16 pm to
quote:


Glad to see some realize it in this thread....the impact of every baw with his mud motor is the real deal. I can't tell you how many times I hear of references of "lets just go take a ride" which includes crossing everyone else's leases to get (roundabout) to their own. And not quiet, as you all know, it's loud AF (gotta have them kits, baw!). And then wonder why no ducks on their marsh?
not only that.. but 30 years ago... marsh boat launches were empty on weekdays. .NOBODY was out there.. and NOBODY fished the shallow ponds.. NOW EVERYONE does.. and add the bowfisherman at night - I know one prime area gated off simply because of fishermen and bowfishermen running through resting canards
Posted by miramon
Member since Oct 2016
176 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 1:20 pm to
You look at the difference in the hunting on public land in Venice where surface drives are allowed vs where they are not, and it is undeniable. Un-f***ing-deniable.

You look at the degradation of the pas a loutre wma hunting ever since the explosion of surface drives and you just shake your head.

Now, its totally possible to put an effort together to get them banned completely on wma's, but you will never see the FFL talking about this, because lots of them use SD's (I believe that includes their leader), and that would mean pointing the finger inward.

What they want is to keep hunting their one pond on their lease in the wood frame blind that faces into the wind half the time, with the decoys that stay out all season, and kill limits every time, and that's just never going to happen, no matter what people do up north.

Try to explain El Nino to these guys and they start twitching like a fiend. Its a bad look.

PS I know I don't post a lot. I am aware. I am more of a reader. Not sure what I can do about that at the moment.
Posted by Tigah D
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
1408 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 1:41 pm to
Limited Access Area (LAA) harvest per hunter effort is (mostly) much higher than non-LAA average on same WMA.

Color me shocked.
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