Does Galore!!

How much land are you working with?

It sounds like you need some doe control.

A big issue with lots of does is that it is self fulfilling. There is a biological twist in the model that they are just now figuring out: When a buck fawn is born he hangs around his mother for about a year. But when his dick gets hard his second year, if his mother is still alive, he will bounce to a new territory. It's a biological behaviour that prevents inbreeding. On average, he will move something like 3-5 miles.

But if his mother gets killed during his first year, he will stay where he was born.

So, if you aren't killing does, you are producing lots of bucks for your neighbors. Kill your mature does and your buck population will spike dramatically.

Truth.

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We have a ton of does on the land, I see 11-15-17 at one time all eating under me year over year

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Get to blastin!

Word has gotten out that all those does are lesbian does. Bucks ain't got time to mess with that.

SO yes, we do blast them does-we also work with others to come in and fill there tags by shooting our does. (Sorry boys, we full this year before you ask) I was just more curious on this. We do hunt the thick stuff as well. I'm not greedy, I shoot 4 or 5 deer a year and fill the freezer, its a great piece of land., I was just curious. Its around 500 acres, surrounded by sugar cane fields, only my dad and I hunt it. Nearest club to hunt by us is several miles away, very little pressure. A couple years back a doe came up to the truck on opening day, I opened the window and just about petted her.

You have bucks, you just haven't figured out where they live yet. If you truly have very little pressure and when you truly find the bucks, summer and early fall you'll see them every day. That's why a lot of guys like to hunt their big bucks on camera as early as possible, because they are still in summer feeding mode. Once they start getting horny, they are not nearly as predictable until the full on rut.

If you aren't seeing them until the rut, that's because you aren't very close to them and you aren't seeing them until they are traveling further away looking for does to breed.

ETA: Also don't forget, that bucks will usually run in groups in the summer and early fall before they split up for the rut. So you rarely don't just see one early on, you see a group of 2-5 or whatever. They will run with does some especially younger bucks, but usually separate.

How can you see all the way to Nov. 15th 2017?

I up voted. Just having fun.

Now we do start to get a few pics of bucks by themselves on the cams near Christmas, Id say pre rut bc rut hits well in my area right near new years. I just rarely see a single one on the cam until then. I may go deeper looking, but Im content where I am, just curious on your prospective.

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We had members that would not do it, so we never came close to filling the tags we were given. Our rules were not flexible enough to allow the heartless doe killers to make up for the bleeding hearts

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What I never understood, is how some people put a date in their mind to not shoot does after, because they dont want to kill a doe who has a fetus. I'm like, if I kill her before she gets knocked up, or after she is knocked up, i prevented that future birth either way.....