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re: Cost of shipping container from China up to record high of $20,586
Posted on 6/18/22 at 1:25 pm to KosmoCramer
Posted on 6/18/22 at 1:25 pm to KosmoCramer
I think the world is finally realizing that there are only so many resources and the west is burning thru them at a rapid pace.
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Posted on 6/19/22 at 8:35 am to diat150
Wait… huh? Wtf are you talking about? The issue isn’t a shortage of resources. It’s supply chain logistics.
Posted on 6/19/22 at 8:40 am to RoscoeSanCarlos
Correct and that China, who unfortunately is key in many aspects of this are actively working against us.
Posted on 6/20/22 at 12:22 am to No Colors
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before we're back in the cooler business
I wonder where I can score some replacement parts for the coolers, like the pig nose feet and drain plug? Point me in the right direction.
Posted on 6/20/22 at 12:31 pm to GREENHEAD22
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I am hearing it is the port authorities, there is no shortage or Longshore or dock workers.
Bingo its the Unions at the Ports that are intentionally driving this backup.
Posted on 6/20/22 at 1:44 pm to KosmoCramer
Company I'm contracted to imports from China...on some would say a moderate scale. We have firsthand knowledge of shipping costs. I can say all of our shipments as of March have been 100 on schedule and off loaded in LA port on time every time. We receive anywhere from 135-450 containers a month. All are on time and have been moved cross country on schedule. Price to ship those containers has only increased slightly compared to pre-covid rates. Where a 20ft container was $2150 is now $3k flat. 40Ft containers were $4k flat are now $5600-$5900 depending on some things. But we also do not know anyone in shipping business paying the numbers mentioned here. Even reefers are $10500 on the high end. So many reports i see of ships sitting off the west coast waiting.....is actually normal and how its looked for more than 2 decades out there. No since in using fear of something you don't understand to push an insane narrative of prepping or shortages. The industry figured it would take 3-5 years to stabilize the supply chains globally. I feel were are actually ahead of the curve compared to other countries and expect certain product shortages as we move thru the process.....stores may not have the exact biscuits you like but there will be biscuits and or ingredients to make them.
Posted on 6/20/22 at 2:46 pm to One More Shot
quote:The ole socialist mindset at work
stores may not have the exact biscuits you like but there will be biscuits and or ingredients to make them.
Posted on 6/20/22 at 7:18 pm to Jack Ruby
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Since the major ports from China are all in California, I'd bet the state is actively causing the problems because it is so corrupt and inept.
It’s called The Great Reset, they told you years ago it was coming and what they were going to do
Some dumbass Americans were more worried about being told the truth they didn’t like by Trump
Posted on 6/20/22 at 7:21 pm to One More Shot
Posted on 6/20/22 at 7:43 pm to One More Shot
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only increased slightly
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20ft container was $2150 is now $3k flat. 40Ft containers were $4k flat are now $5600-$5900
Even with your BS numbers, a ~40% increase is "slight"? Whatever man...
Posted on 6/20/22 at 7:54 pm to One More Shot
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No since in using fear of something you don't understand to push an insane narrative of prepping or shortages.
Posters here have already mentioned the fertilizer issues.
Off road diesel is over $5
Gas is $4.50+
Infant formula is scarce
Just go out and try to start you a small reserve of ammo and see how hard that is.
Yeah, everything is fine right now. No worries.
Posted on 6/20/22 at 10:01 pm to One More Shot
I agree with your 20ft container prices from China. We just had about a dozen come in for a project in Port Arthur Texas from China with Pump blocks and motor housings and they were $2800 and change each. I signed the invoices from GOContainers. And all were delivered about 10 days earlier than expected. So I Can buy that.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 6:44 am to One More Shot
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40Ft containers were $4k flat are now $5600-$5900 depending on some things.
What kind of things does it depend on? My last 40ft container that arrived a week ago was $19,666.13 from universal cargo management. Who can i talk to to get the rates you are quoting?
Time frames are getting back to normal though
Posted on 6/21/22 at 12:51 pm to 72LATraveler
72latrav, Mostly Pacific Container and AIS are the two we use the most third would probably be, Allison Shipping INT.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 1:00 pm to RoIITide
Guess what im trying to say is things will def come back inline. Just takes some time to get a global economy straightened out when some of it was completely idle for months. Yes I want my favorite products NOW. But seeing the bigger picture I understand it will take some time to reestablish all those links in the chain to get pricing and supply back in line around the world. Like it or not I'm just as American as yall. But we live in a 100% global economy. Its not anything to panic prep and panic buy over because those things cause even longer way back. example... toilet paper when covid hit. As logical thinking people, we have to do better too. Lets not go out and buy up all the flour, sugar and ammo....when you do you offset the supply and demand ratios and cause skyrocketing prices and low stock. Le it sit on a shelf a while and those prices come right on down where they should be.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 1:50 pm to Jack Ruby
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Self-sustainability is also key. Grow a garden and raise some chickens.
I have done urban homesteading for a long time. I am curious as to how anyone who is not a farmer thinks this is a real self sustainability option.
At best, the average person's yard, with chickens, can make 15-20% of your calories. And lets say you really can't get supplies at the store, will your chickens just keep making eggs without feed?
Truth is, if you want to do that you need serious acreage and you need to make homesteading your day job.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 8:19 pm to One More Shot
I’ve been doing this for the last 20 years, and you’re full of shite. 135 to 140 containers is a lot of volume. So maybe you have a contract for such a low amount. But the average small business is still paying $18k+ for a 40’ container.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 8:55 am to deaconjones35
Sorry but if you have been doing this for 20 years and don't realize less than 500 containers a month is moderate at best. you are in a small economic area. All 4 yards around me do well over 500 every month and south of us does probably 2500+ a month. By far we are the smallest on the whole block. We were just discussing this again yesterday afternoon before shift change. We have yet to see a non reef container in real time going for more than $9k and it was a priority shipment. And the guy that paid that needed the two chassis in it for a race only 12 hours after they hit port.
Posted on 6/23/22 at 7:20 am to Chad504boy
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We need to shift manufacturing to Mexico and India
We need to move essential manufacturing back to the US, period.
You want to build some rainbow buzz lightyear dolls in Mexico, have at it.
Meds, defense related items and anything critical to infrastructure should be on shore by act of congress.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 10:31 am to KosmoCramer
Container rates are actually falling some for me but it’s still too high. For a decade a container out of Southeast Asia ran around $3-4,000. Now it’s $15,000 on up. At one point it was $25,000. Talk about make our imported lumber go up to the end user. Our containers out of Africa have been cheaper but the big cargo ship companies don’t like going in there to pick up mahogany, Spanish Cedar, and African exotics. 2-3 of the three larger companies said they need to make that one main port deeper by dredging it and get the cranes properly working. 90% of the African species of lumber we import come out of one port. Brazil our container prices have been high but nothing like Southeast Asia.
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