re: Concealed Carry Weapon

Yes this is true and I also carry a glock 19. But I also recognize that I am a 1 percenter. The other 99% will not carry, no matter how much we try to tell them to, a full size gun. And it is 100% because they don't believe it is comfortable compared to a single stack. So as long as the person already owns the fullsize gun I do not try to dissuade the person from buying a smaller single stack that they are much more likely to carry. Continually telling them I carry a fullsize gun everyday converts very few people. I do have a minimum that I recommend to people and that's stops right at the 43 and the shield.

2.6 pounds for a fully loaded M9 I'm not so sure of the comfort level there. Not saying you can't but I definitely wouldn't want to.

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Yes this is true and I also carry a glock 19. But I also recognize that I am a 1 percenter. The other 99% will not carry, no matter how much we try to tell them to, a full size gun

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Nailed it.

I'm also of the opinion that the 43/Shield/XDs/CM9/PPS are about the minimum in size I'm willing to recommend.

Pretty much all the quality single stack guns from well-known manufacturers will be reliable. I think the proven leaders in the segment are the Shield, Glock 43, and XDs. Just shoot the fire out of it when you buy it to check function and then carry confidently, as you would with any carry piece.

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If it's a dangerous situation and I know ahead of time, I'm packing my Colt .45

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If I know ahead of time, I just don't go.


Hopefully none of us will ever have to pull a gun.

I recently traded a cheap guitar for a Ruger LCP 380. The simplicity of that thing is impressive. Always wondered why people don't like safeties, but now I understand. Trigger pull is pretty hard, I guess because of the double action, but it's easy to shoot when you intend to, and pretty accurate. I only shot it at 15 yards, but if someone's further than that from me, I probably wont be shooting at them.

BTW, I don't cc.

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Holy shite this thread is all over the place.

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1+

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M&P Shield, Glock 43, Walther PPS M2, Springfield XDs (if you're set on single stack)

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Solid recs. I'd add the Kahr CW series for consideration, as well. The trigger has a true DAO feel to it as opposed to a striker mechanism. Nevertheless, the CW series are good guns. The CM9/PM9 are good choices if one's looking for a slightly smaller version, especially for pocket carry. I'll be introducing a CM9 soon to my cc rotation. I'll let the OB know more about the gun as soon as the leather gets here.

I've recently bought a G29 with a Galco king tuk and it's extremely comfortable to carry.

I also have a shield and a commander size 1911 that I carry. Well, sometimes I'll carry my Delta Elite as well.

All are IWB.

And no offense Dawg, most (not all mind you) police officers don't have great training. Well, let me rephrase. They have good training, but they don't practice. Most shoot enough simply to be able to pass their requirements.

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And no offense Dawg, most (not all mind you) police officers don't have great training. Well, let me rephrase. They have good training, but they don't practice. Most shoot enough simply to be able to pass their requirements.

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I agree -- most don't practice.

But the bigger issue is that virtually no one shoots as well under the stress of a lethal engagement as they do at their local gun range. Unfortunately (sometimes tragically) people overestimate what their skill level is, and what it's likely to be, under stress. (Google "Dunning-Kruger effect -- people tend to overestimate their skill level -- everybody thinks they're above average."

Cops don't miss 80% of their shots at qualification time. If they did, they'd never qualify. But they (on average) miss 80% in gunfights because people are shooting at them.

I only mentioned this phenomenon in my earlier post to point out that 6-7 rounds in a pistol is actually a pretty small number based on the FBI's annual Uniform Crime Report. According to the most recent report, as well as the 10 previous annual reports, ON AVERAGE (a) it will take more than one pistol round to incapacitate an attacker, and (b) there will be more than one attacker.

We've all read or heard about people running away as soon a a gun is fired (or as soon as a shotgun is racked), but if the attacker is under the influence of certain drugs, or is mentally ill, or belongs to a street gang, etc., etc. he may not stop until you render him/her incapable of continuing the attack. If we start with a 5-shot revolver and miss 80%, we're really in trouble if more than one the dude is trying to kill you.

I realize some people on this board practice more than, and shoot better than, the "average cop." But we all need to guard against overconfidence. (I forget who first said, "Confidence is good, but overconfidence will get you killed.

I shoot 600-700 rounds/week thru my CCW pistol to hopefully reach and/or maintain a skill level where I can survive an attack even if I were to lose the majority of my skill due to stress. I can guarantee you that I'm not one of the overconfident people (anyone who has seen me shoot can probably verify that I have no reason to be overconfident ).