re: Chickens and HOA’s Are There Any Attorneys On The Board?

How did they find out about these non-poultry, non-animal, usual pet chickens?

The fact it specifically bans poultry and then goes on to make an exception for "usual pets" leads me to believe chicks are not considered usual pets. They want poultry banned separate and apart. If push came to shove, you would lose. I suggest asking for a variance like the other gentleman suggested.

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I think you are missing the next part of the clause.

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I don't think anyone is missing anything. You want someone to come here and say that chickens aren't poultry, that they are a usual pet and they obviously aren't.

I wouldn't ask permission though, I would just throw some chickens in a coop and see if anyone has a problem with it. Worst case scenario is someone speaks up and you get to make dumplings.

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I’m moving to a neighborhood that has restrictions. They’re very reasonable, so it didn’t deter me. There’s no HOA. So who would enforce these restrictions? The restrictions for my neighborhood says no livestock, but it says nothing about chickens. So I assume they’re allowed.

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I live in the same type of neighborhood. I got chickens and quails anyway. no one said shite and no one can enforce it.

so my jackleg neighbors can't have chickens?

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There was a time where an American public education would almost guarantee this sort of knowledge by the 7th, 8th grade.

But, not today apparently.

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Maybe he can say they're service animals for his PTSD.

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There was a time where an American public education would almost guarantee this sort of knowledge by the 7th, 8th grade.

But, not today apparently.

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Agreed, because some of you are having a hard time with the exception. It also clearly states that "animals" are excluded. Wouldn't you agree Dogs, cats, etc...=animals? So obviously the first part of the clause is simply outlying everything. Hell really they could have just used animals and insects as livestock and poultry are clearly animals.

The exception and restrictions after is where the policy is enforced. they make no distinction or definition of what "usual pets" is to be. A usual pet is also "animal" which would be excluded by your use of only the first half of the clause.

I am merely asking if the clause is loose enough where a hen could be considered a "usual pet". The entire covenants make no definition of "usual" or "pet". Similar, but not exactly the same, covenants have gone to court around here and been won by homeowners, so obviously I am not the slow one around here. Times have changed, backyard chickens as pets, just like "service animals" have become popular. I am not going to disturb any neighbor. The only ones that have issues arent going to be close to me and are going to be the idiots, like a few in here, who thinks having chickens is trashy and need to grow up.

You can't do it.....the HOA will crush you in court. I hate HOAs (am in one but my next house won't be).

It's like if you go to a bbq restaurant and they say "we're out of all food except for pulled pork". It's easier for them to list what is available instead of all the things that are not. You're talking down saying this is bad grammar but you're just trying to read it like you want when clearly everyone else but you is reading it as intended.

But your mind is made up. go for it!