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Purple Spoon
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re: Check out this buck's range - Mississippi Delta
Pussy is undefeated.


Purple Spoon
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re: Check out this buck's range - Mississippi Delta
That’s Eagle lake in the picture


nolaks
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re: Check out this buck's range - Mississippi Delta
that little patch of CRP he lives in below Tranyslvania is tiny. I've been there to watch deer. Huge herd.


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kywildcatfanone
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re: Check out this buck's range - Mississippi Delta
No fence?


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Boomdaddy65201
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re: Check out this buck's range - Mississippi Delta
A buck with a hard dick will go places where a buck with a loaded gun will not.


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Wraytex
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Farmtiger
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re: Check out this buck's range - Mississippi Delta
That explains why I have 150's in the spring and summer and 110's in the fall and winter... Grrrr..


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ABucks11
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re: Check out this buck's range - Mississippi Delta
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Honestly, the “cull” thing is more of an excuse for some hunters to justify shooting a small buck or a buck that doesn’t meet club standards.


Yeah only thing culling does is reduce mouths eating. If you are paying feeding bills, I could see the motivation of this.


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LSUballs
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re: Check out this buck's range - Mississippi Delta
Also, that buck wouldn't have to leave from there if they would #finishthepumps


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hubreb
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re: Check out this buck's range - Mississippi Delta
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I have an uncle who has hunted Davis Island for 30 years or so, old schooler. I've been a few times in those 30 years.

He and everyone else always said "all" their deer left every year and came back, most swim the river once flooding starts.


he is correct, they cross the chute into Louisiana when the Island floods - at the beginning they'll be all over the levee...they flood our woods at the camp I belong to and leave once the water goes down on the island


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TigerDeacon
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re: Check out this buck's range - Mississippi Delta
Maybe he just through he was abducted by aliens and needed to find a new place to hide?


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Outdoorreb
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re: Check out this buck's range - Mississippi Delta
I think they are using it on over populated areas too. The areas that have good buck:doe ratios, but the heard is just too large. I can see the late bloomer argument, but what are the chances of a late bloomer reaching 150”. I could be wrong, but it has to be slim to none. I expect there to be a 1-2 oop’s.


Volt
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re: Check out this buck's range - Mississippi Delta
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every gun on your place can accurately age a deer on the hoof


Anyone that says they can do this is wrong. Even the professionals can't do this accurately.

Read an article about a QDMA researcher that had put his hands on around 1500 bucks I believe and he said he was wrong more times than not. Most of these deer he had seen in person and/or pictures of multiple times. He would guess the age and when the buck was either darted or harvested, he would age their teeth. He said he was +/- two years in his guess many times over.

People that say they can do this are idiots. That's why I would never be part of a "club" that says you have to age the deer correctly.


Ol boy
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re: Check out this buck's range - Mississippi Delta
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People that say they can do this are idiots

Well we may be idiots but we try and for the most part shoot mature deer. Do we know exactly how old they are??!! No but by trying to shoot “mature looking” heavy body 190-200lbs 3.5-4.5 yr old heavy horned deer we are able be consistently on the higher end of the age class based on jawbone data.
Are we killing booners? No!! But we are killing at the top of what our habitat and herd can produce.
My gripe with the you can’t age it crowd is the one who claim you can’t age a deer and bring in a 125 pound basket rack 8pt sela for size reference.


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TheDrunkenTigah
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re: Check out this buck's range - Mississippi Delta
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I think they are using it on over populated areas too. The areas that have good buck:doe ratios, but the heard is just too large


Not arguing with you but this just isn’t true of the vast majority of land in MS, if it’s true of your place then I have a rifle and three weeks vacation a year, sup.

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can see the late bloomer argument, but what are the chances of a late bloomer reaching 150”. I could be wrong, but it has to be slim to none


This is the least understood part of it and the biggest point of contention. Their assertion was you don’t know until 3.5 and really more like 4.5 how a buck compares within his cohort, but if you’ve made up your mind there’s nothing else you can do to improve habitat and have to reduce the number of mouths to feed it might as well be the ones that need to make a leap. Some would have if you left them to grow, and some of your above average bucks will show to have peaked early, but in general you’re letting the bucks you like eat the food.

What would be news to me is if they carried this logic over to spikes, as they’re very careful to say best case you’re shooting a 3.5 to save what he would have ate to get to 5.5. Then it begs the question, is he a below average 3.5 or a stud 2.5? Can bubba and his $100 scope tell when he trots across a lane? If there’s something that could put more food on the property, is it worth guessing?


Outdoorreb
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re: Check out this buck's range - Mississippi Delta
It isn’t my place. I manage a property and consult with people from MSU(have anyway), state and regional biologist for the property. The heard specialist (they are all a certain specialist it seems) is the one that brought up the spike rule. I think him and the habitat specialist both suggested shooting the lower 30% of the age class to try and keep buck:doe ratio where we want it.

I’ll get more information on the spike theory, I am doing another property evaluation with the heard specialist in August to see if we have the natural resources for the heard during late summer. We might have to kill more deer, or stick with the numbers we have already.

I mentioned before that our deer:acre ratio would be over populated on most places. Either the camera survey and hunting observation data were both wrong, or the property is sustaining it just fine. Habitat evaluations in February and May said it is fine, but an August one might say otherwise.


Yukon7
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Member since May 2018
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re: Check out this buck's range - Mississippi Delta
My biggest problem with the shooting spikes under 2” could easily be the difference between a buck that was born in may and a buck that was born late from the secondary rut in June or July. One is 10 months old when antlers start developing, and the other is 8 months old. That’s a 20% difference in age, not to mention that a smaller younger deer probably had a harder time surviving through deep freezes like the one we had in the spring. So essentially it could “stunt” their development.

I can buy the lower 30% argument, but i think it would have to be done when they are 2.5+ Years of age. This would ensure that they had the same opportunities to develop their rack , with age being less of a factor.


Outdoorreb
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re: Check out this buck's range - Mississippi Delta
I’ll try to get the data, and let y’all know what it says. If he can give a link I’ll post it. It just might be in August.


Yukon7
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Louisiana
Member since May 2018
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re: Check out this buck's range - Mississippi Delta
I would be very interested, thanks. I’m by no means a biologists, but the nature of my profession makes me over analytical/observant. We lease 2900 acres so i would love to see different management methods.


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