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C02 Storage Under Lake Maurepas

Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:00 pm
Posted by TigerNAtux
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
18479 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:00 pm
Anyone else following this?
Posted by jgthunt
Walker
Member since Feb 2010
2648 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:12 pm to
Ol Kinion seems to post something about it every few hours. I haven't personally looked into it much, but I'm sure it has it's pros and cons.
Posted by bigbuckdj
Member since Sep 2011
1972 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:19 pm to
I have followed it a little I personally don’t understand all the drama.

Waste management in walker smells awful, I’m sure the runoff isn’t managed from that and that’s all on the surface. Nobody has been successful in stopping that nonsense and it’s already here and already is an obvious problem. Man I wish that would get cleaned up.

There’s deep disposal injection wells all up and down the river. I feel better with carbon dioxide vs what those disposal wells are permitted for. Same with chemical and oil storage, underground storage is not that unusual, right or wrong.
Posted by TigerNAtux
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
18479 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:23 pm to
It has no pros as far as I’m concerned. Not one.

How they’ve managed to keep this so quiet screams shady.

This is bad for the lake.

Posted by ImaObserver
Member since Aug 2019
2448 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:28 pm to
Nothing like having a lake "burp" and suffocating and killing everyone and everything for a great distance around.
Gas cloud kills Cameroon villagers
Posted by TigerNAtux
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
18479 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 10:41 pm to
Yeah…this is not happy cow fart C02. It’s toxic waste. And they plan on putting millions of metric tons of it under the lake.

It’s bad shite. And they have a terrible record of containing it historically.
30% retention is the best they got.

People are just now waking up to it as they are getting ready to set off explosives in the lake to test for “seismic” activity.





Posted by MotorBoater
Hammond
Member since Sep 2010
1709 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 10:49 pm to
I was in the lake this afternoon. There is already a push boat and work platform set up and ready between the mouth of the Tickfaw and Manchac.
Posted by TigerNAtux
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
18479 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 11:24 pm to
I heard about it. They should definitely leave that unattended for long periods of time.
Posted by MNCscripper
St. George
Member since Jan 2004
11872 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:43 am to
quote:

I was in the lake this afternoon. There is already a push boat and work platform set up and ready between the mouth of the Tickfaw and Manchac.


I listened to an engineer from Air Products speak yesterday about this.

They started dredging the test well sites this week. They will drill one test well in Nov and the other in Jan.
Posted by Koolazzkat
Behind the Tupelo gum tree
Member since May 2021
3051 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 4:57 am to
Just another step in the process of destroying ourselves. Act accordingly.
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
9073 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 7:18 am to
Is there any link to read up on?
Posted by Sparty3131
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2019
885 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 7:53 am to
Sportsman Paradise....

C.R.E.A.M.

Cash Rules Everything Around Me
Posted by TigerNAtux
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
18479 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 7:58 am to
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22867 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 8:27 am to
quote:

And they have a terrible record of containing it historically.
30% retention is the best they got.


Where did you see that?
Posted by Ol boy
Member since Oct 2018
3983 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 8:29 am to
I heard it from a buddy last week that has a camp down by the lake. The lake people are all up in arms about it.
But from my understanding it’s no different than the co2 injection wells that’s already in place back of White Castle.
Everyone wants to go green and pushed companies to capture co2 and save the earth “but not in my back yard” is what you end up with right here.
I’m not saying the people with the camps deserve it but this is what happens, I can’t wait till the propose all the wind farms in places like San Francisco bay and east coast beach communities.
Posted by TigerNAtux
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
18479 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 8:49 am to
Heard it on a video that was posted. I’ll see if I can find it.

Do you have other info?
Posted by bigbuckdj
Member since Sep 2011
1972 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 8:55 am to
I agree about existing wells, Louisiana has permitted and allowed far worse than what this seems to be. I still haven’t seen anything about how it’s a different risk than everything else.

“Co2 pipelines are dangerous” we have ammonia, hydrogen, and natural gas pipelines running all over the place here.

For the actual injection part, I’d like to know how this compares to everything else we do. Just from a glance, fracking and injection for gas and oil wells, and plant waste disposal wells would seem to be a larger safety concern.

Edit: a lot of what is driving the opposition suspiciously seems like people focused heavily on renewables/solar/whatever that isn’t petroleum. They are scared that the carbon capture stuff will just make us more reliant on petroleum. Understandable, but I don’t think these people care about our lake as much as pushing teslas and shutting down petroleum.
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 8:59 am
Posted by Ol boy
Member since Oct 2018
3983 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:18 am to
quote:

“Co2 pipelines are dangerous” we have ammonia, hydrogen, and natural gas pipelines running all over the place here. For the actual injection part, I’d like to know how this compares to everything else we do. Just from a glance, fracking and injection for gas and oil wells, and plant waste disposal wells would seem to be a larger safety concern.

Co2 is highly corrosive if any water is in the stream. Other than that then it’s just the issue of oxygen deprivation in the area of a blowout if there is one.
As for the injection it’s no different than other injection wells. They will inject fresh water pumping off the brine until they have evacuated the dome to the size they want. They will then begin injecting c02 into the void maintaining a min and max PSI for the cavern.
And yes there is concern for a dome collapse there was a collapse of one a few years back near pier part. If the owner fails to maintain the correct pressure they can crack the walls of the dome which results in leaching or communicating of one dome to another. If they let the heel get too low there is risk of the dome collapsing and sucking in cypress trees. Go google it it’s impressive
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22867 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:19 am to
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Do you have other info?


I would find that number very hard to believe given how strictly these wells are regulated.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22867 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:23 am to
quote:

Edit: a lot of what is driving the opposition suspiciously seems like people focused heavily on renewables/solar/whatever that isn’t petroleum. They are scared that the carbon capture stuff will just make us more reliant on petroleum. Understandable, but I don’t think these people care about our lake as much as pushing teslas and shutting down petroleum.


Yep. From the link provided by TigerNAtux

quote:

CCS technology entrenches reliance on fossil fuels rather than accelerating the needed transition to cheaper and cleaner renewable energy.

quote:

Adding carbon capture to coal- or gas-fired power plants makes them more expensive, less efficient, and less competitive than renewable energy projects, which are already the cheapest source of electricity for most of the country and most of the world. Nearly 80% of captured carbon is just being used to produce more oil.

quote:

Carbon capture allows industries to keep burning fossil fuels. Even worse, the vast majority of captured carbon today is used to produce more oil through so-called “enhanced oil recovery.” Real solutions for climate change in Louisiana do exist, supported by local communities. The focus of Louisiana leaders and policymakers should remain on cost-effective strategies that maximize public benefit and ensure a stable and safe economic future for Louisiana and its people. Carbon capture and storage does not fit that bill.


Read: We don't like it because it's going to allow O&G companies to produce more O&G.
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