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Posted on 7/5/21 at 6:31 pm to
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 7/5/21 at 6:31 pm to
yeah honestly I'd just skip the 20 and go straight to a 12 after a .410.

plenty of reduced recoil loads if the kid is a pussy
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
9219 posts
Posted on 7/5/21 at 7:28 pm to
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Damn man, that’s a $1,500 rig for a 7 year old. OB Baller right here



Start them out right or not at all
Posted by TimeOutdoors
LA
Member since Sep 2014
13416 posts
Posted on 7/5/21 at 7:34 pm to
quote:

don't start him out with a .410.


Why? I used to love going dove hunting and killing more with my single shot 410 than people with their 12 gauge auto. Teaches you not to waste ammo.

I just purchased one of the 22/410 salvage breakdown o/u for grouse hunting.
Posted by theOG
Member since Feb 2010
10830 posts
Posted on 7/5/21 at 8:38 pm to
My 7 y/o is a hell of a shot with his BB gun. He knows he’s getting his first real gun for Christmas this year, so I’m going to be in the same boat by the end of the year.

I have a 10/22 and a can, but it’s got a heavy arse bull barrel, so it’s a pain to lug around. I’m either going to get him his own 10/22 with a threaded barrel or some rifle in 7mm08 so he can try to get his first deer this season. I also like the 300 blk idea.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
14570 posts
Posted on 7/5/21 at 8:54 pm to
My first was a 22 we'd torment the hell out of squirrels but it didn't take long to get deadly. It's not something he can run around with but it's the real deal for hunting with dad.
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7567 posts
Posted on 7/5/21 at 8:56 pm to
Congrats, doubIeh on being involved w/ your son. When my son started hunting, I approached it in stages. I'd first start him shooting and learning how to safely handle a gun using a 22 LR. Once he actually starts deer hunting w/ you in a stand or in the squirrel woods, he'll obviously need something different. Once my son advanced to the next stage after the 22 LR, I taught him how to use a Mossberg 20 gauge youth model pump shotgun. In the deer stand, it was loaded w/ slugs. That stage only lasted a year or two before he started using my old 270 Win bolt w/ reduced recoil handloads. The 300 Blackout and 6.5 Grendel are good options w/o the need for reduced recoil loads. The next year he was 10 and I bought him his own deer rifle, a Savage bolt in 308 Win, using reduced recoil handholds. Using factory reduced recoil loads there are now a lot of options for a youth deer hunting rifle. As someone else suggested, cutting of the buttstock is a good idea. Be sure the guns have recoil pads.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
28629 posts
Posted on 7/5/21 at 9:05 pm to
This is what I did for my son. He was smaller when he was young as well.

He got a little crack barrel .22 when he was 3, almost 4. It was his Christmas present. He learned gun safety with that.
When he was 7 or 8 he got a Franchi Affinity Compact in .20. Never had any issues shooting it at all.
At 9 I gave him my AR-15 in 6.8 spc.
He’s 15 now
I bought him a new Browning Citori 12g that he uses for his trap shooting (on his schools team).
Last year I built him a 6.5 Creedmoor from a Remington 700 that I bought cheap and then sent off to get blue printed and timed. It’ll shoot a 4” group at 600yds.
And lastly I bought a new aero AR builders kit and put together a 5.56. Right after I bought it I found me a Radian kit along with another I ordered in November. So, I gave him the Aero.
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
5516 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 9:08 am to
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A .410 doesn't do anything well, when compared to the larger shotguns gauges.

The hundreds of rabbits and squirrels exterminated from my back yard / swamp / levy as a kid disagree.

A crack barrel .410 is a right of passage as a kid. Teaches the kid to make each shot count.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15064 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 9:27 am to
quote:

Teaches the kid to make each shot count.


How does a .410 teach kids to make each shot count? Isn't this proving my point?
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
40108 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 9:33 am to
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10/22


perfect for 8-12 year olds...


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H&R handy rifle


perfect for 13-17 year olds


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Ruger American


perfect for 18-21 year olds


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Grandpas Remington 700 BDL


perfect for 21+ year olds
This post was edited on 7/6/21 at 9:34 am
Posted by F73ME
SE LA
Member since May 2018
915 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 9:51 am to
Get him a bb gun or air rifle if you're thinking more hands-off level supervision.

Bolt action 22 if he's ready for it, only w/ supervision.

I learned on a 22 bolt and I don't think i'd change it. Made me take my time with each shot. Would still shoot through a brick of ammo every weekend at the camp. Would have run my father broke if I had access to a semi-auto.
Posted by DeoreDX
Member since Oct 2010
4336 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 9:56 am to
My son's first was a cricket. Small. Light. Easy for a small diminutive kid to handle and shoot. My son was about your kid's age when he got his. He's always been in the lower 25% for height/weight for his age. At 10 we built up a 10/22 for him.



Kidd ULW Barrel
Blackhawk Axiom stock. Lightest stock I could find and has an adjustable length of pull that has grown with him.
Standard action and trigger mods (Brimestone trigger, Volquartsen extractor, Kidd hardened guide rod).
I had a light weight leupold 2-7 scope on the rifle at first but he moved this cheap UTG scope off my PCP cause he like the tacticool look. Thing will put 5 bullets through the same hole at 25 meters. Light enough he can offhand it without any issues.
This post was edited on 7/6/21 at 9:59 am
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
9416 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 10:35 am to
For a rifle, a simple 22 will suffice like a 10/22. For his first shotgun, a youth model in 20 gauge is what I would go for. I started hunting with a shotgun around 8 and that is what my dad started me out with. We did the same thing for my nephew around the same age.

Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72047 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 10:35 am to
Its generally good advice if wingshooting is in the plans. A 20ga is much easier for that. A .410 is frustrating for a grown man

For rabbits and squirrels a 410 is fine for a kid.
Posted by mfiredog
Stonewall
Member since Oct 2016
725 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 10:41 am to
We started with a cricket 22. Year later moved to shotgun
Posted by jgthunt
Walker
Member since Feb 2010
2662 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 10:53 am to
My daughter will be 7 in September. Last summer I got her a used savage rascal I bought from a buddy. Put a cheap red dot on it and she went to town. This past fall I let her shoot my AR in 6.5 gr with a burris ff3. She killed her first deer. Probably let her shoot it for a few years and then move her to the youth 7mm-08.
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
5516 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 11:00 am to
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Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
5516 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 11:02 am to
quote:

How does a .410 teach kids to make each shot count?

Being a single shot crack barrel it teaches them to point and aim rather than burn three rounds.

It sounds like your point is that a little kid should shoot a 12 gauge since it is ballistically superior to smaller shot gun calibers.
Posted by TimeOutdoors
LA
Member since Sep 2014
13416 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 11:05 am to
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Being a single shot crack barrel it teaches them to point and aim rather than burn three rounds.


This. I used to only shot 10-12 times and would have 8-9 birds. Friends would have gone two boxes of shells to get that many birds.
Posted by UCF_BLUEBLOODS
Member since Feb 2021
61 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 11:11 am to
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