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re: Anyone following this swordfish fight in Florida? - UPDATE: Bluefin released (dead)

Posted on 7/12/18 at 12:03 pm to
Posted by PapaPogey
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Posted on 7/12/18 at 12:03 pm to
That’s what makes this specific story so intriguing. That’s a big motherfricker if they can get it to the boat.
Posted by AU_251
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Posted on 7/12/18 at 12:05 pm to
I think for traditional billfish, sure a manual reel is what you should use.

But luckily for them they were using electric because they're obviously hooked up to the Loch Ness
Posted by Saskwatch
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Posted on 7/12/18 at 12:06 pm to
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but if you were serious about BIG swords wouldn't you use a heavier rod with heavier line/ drag so you wouldn't have to fight them so long


Deep dropping during the day when the swords are DEEP as shite. Cranking a couple hundred pound fish along with heavy concrete weight and dangling flashing probe up a thousand feet is a bitch by hand. Factor in bigger heavier tackle that you describe would not be enjoyable.
Posted by stewie
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 7/12/18 at 12:06 pm to
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you think you're gonna fight this fish for 20 hours? haha get over yourself


In this unique scenario, you share the seat.

Offshore fishing is already a team sport, I see no problem with multiple people fighting the same fish if it goes on for this long.


To each his own, I just don’t see what’s badass about hooking into a huge fish and letting the electric reel fight it.

I guess you still need a very capable captain to work the fish.
Posted by CP3
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Posted on 7/12/18 at 12:06 pm to
I mean swords arent really the same as marlin fishing etc

You're catching these at like 1200 feet
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
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Posted on 7/12/18 at 12:08 pm to
Yea that's what I was getting at. It's not feasible to catch these with anything other than electric
Posted by JAB528
The Mexican Ocean
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Posted on 7/12/18 at 12:08 pm to
It’s not that easy.

The electric they’re using puts out an unbelievable amount of drag.
Posted by CP3
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/12/18 at 12:09 pm to
I mean we use an 80w tiagra. Just a long exhausting fight.

That being said I'd be all about using an LP or Hooker electric if I could afford it
This post was edited on 7/12/18 at 12:10 pm
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
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Posted on 7/12/18 at 12:09 pm to
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I've only sword fished once, but if you were serious about BIG swords wouldn't you use a heavier rod with heavier line/ drag so you wouldn't have to fight them so long? I'm guessing the electric reel doesn't have as much drag as some other outfits?


Swords have relatively soft mouths. You can't bury the drag and just winch them in or you'll rip the hook out.
Posted by stewie
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 7/12/18 at 12:11 pm to
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Yea that's what I was getting at. It's not feasible to catch these with anything other than electric


Bull, but don’t know how many people would do it without electric.
Posted by baldona
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Posted on 7/12/18 at 12:11 pm to
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Yea that's what I was getting at. It's not feasible to catch these with anything other than electric


You are telling me its harder than a 1000 lb marlin or bluefin that are routinely caught on regular tackle? I'm ignorant here, I just find that hard to believe.
Posted by CP3
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/12/18 at 12:12 pm to
Lots of people do it without an electric
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/12/18 at 12:12 pm to
My dad reeled in a 350lb blue marlin in like 20 or 30 minutes
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 7/12/18 at 12:12 pm to
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I mean we use an 80w tiagra. Just a long exhausting fight.

That being said I'd be all about using an LP or Hooker electric if I could afford it




yea, i mean, you COULD catch tilefish on a standard reel, but both times I've been we've used electric. And that was only like 850 feet down.
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 7/12/18 at 12:13 pm to
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You can't bury the drag and just winch them in or you'll rip the hook out


Fact. Have to find the sweet spot. You can spin smaller fish off if your just trying to burn them to the top.

quote:

You are telling me its harder than a 1000 lb marlin or bluefin that are routinely caught on regular tackle?


If a fish is running horizontal you can cut the distance by tracking with boat. The fish you describe can be caught over shelfs. Swords are fished next to canyons and its much deeper, also you are already hooking them 1,000 feet down and have to make back all that depth from the get go
This post was edited on 7/12/18 at 12:16 pm
Posted by JAB528
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Posted on 7/12/18 at 12:14 pm to
1000lb marlin or bluefin aren’t exactly a regular commodity.

They’re also fighting the boat.

Swordfish are at very deep depths. It’s quite different than most pelagics.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
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Posted on 7/12/18 at 12:15 pm to
quote:

You are telling me its harder than a 1000 lb marlin or bluefin that are routinely caught on regular tackle? I'm ignorant here, I just find that hard to believe.




Swords dive deeeeeeep. Bluefin do the same but depending on what depth they're hooked in they may have nowhere to go and if they can't get to the thermocline they'll overheat and kill themselves. Swords are always hooked in deep water. Billfish tend to run on top so a competent captain can use the boat to work them. Can it be done? Sure. It's not comparable to marlin fishing though.
Posted by CP3
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Posted on 7/12/18 at 12:16 pm to
Not to mention when you get them up to 100 ft and they decide to say frick you and dive alllll the way back down to the bottom
This post was edited on 7/12/18 at 12:16 pm
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 7/12/18 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

1000lb marlin or bluefin aren’t exactly a regular commodity.

They’re also fighting the boat.

Swordfish are at very deep depths. It’s quite different than most pelagics.


I'm assuming this is a 1000lb ish sword right? That was my point. This gear was likely meant for 100-500 lb fish and they hooked up with something bigger. Like hooking up with a 1000 lb marlin with a 30W. Not ideal.
Posted by PapaPogey
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Posted on 7/12/18 at 12:17 pm to
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