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Air Compressor Plumbing
Posted on 3/5/19 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 3/5/19 at 2:34 pm
I have a 30x50 shop that I am going to plumb for compressed air. Leaning towards 3/4" type L copper. In the planning stages now, anyone have any advice for me? TIA
Posted on 3/5/19 at 2:38 pm to Farmtiger
Have you considered PVC? Dad did his manifold around his shop with PVC and never had any issues keeping pressure or having any big leaks. I mean if he left it on...the compressor would kick on maybe once or twice at night..but that could have also been due to cooling down too.
Posted on 3/5/19 at 2:45 pm to Farmtiger
pvc is much better and will save you a shite ton of labor and money
dont forget to add condensation collectors, im not talking about those fancy collector bottles you buy to put in the lines, they only need to be extensions at the lowest point of any lines with a valve to purge moisture that collects, again saving you a ton of money
dont forget to add condensation collectors, im not talking about those fancy collector bottles you buy to put in the lines, they only need to be extensions at the lowest point of any lines with a valve to purge moisture that collects, again saving you a ton of money
Posted on 3/5/19 at 2:46 pm to NASA_ISS_Tiger
Mine is 30x50. Used 3/4 PVC with two quick connect drops on each wall. Works good for me
Posted on 3/5/19 at 3:30 pm to keakar
Yep. PVC is the very easy choice
Posted on 3/5/19 at 3:49 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Got my garage plumbed with 1" PVC. Been fine for 15 years. 4 hose reels on the ceiling, 3 stub-outs with quick connects on the walls, and a stub-out with quick connect in my 2nd floor. All runs off of an 80 gallon 2 stage Ingersoll Rand with a secondary 80 gallon tank for volume.
Posted on 3/5/19 at 4:03 pm to RingLeader
You can't use PVC with air compressors. It's against OSHA standards. Now will anyone do anything to you for using it.....not in a million years.
The reason PVC should not be used is b/c the oil used in air compressors is a solvent for the glue used in PVC. over time, it will eventually weaken spots in the pipe and will cause a blow out. When that blowout happens, little shards of plastic go flying as if a mini grenade went off. Same thing can happen over time with the PVC simply aging and degrading. Everyone has seen PVC get brittle over time and crack easily.
Liklihood of it blowing out is pretty low, and even lower that someone will be in a dangerous position when it happens, but just letting you know why PVC isnt' supposed to be used with compressed air.
The reason PVC should not be used is b/c the oil used in air compressors is a solvent for the glue used in PVC. over time, it will eventually weaken spots in the pipe and will cause a blow out. When that blowout happens, little shards of plastic go flying as if a mini grenade went off. Same thing can happen over time with the PVC simply aging and degrading. Everyone has seen PVC get brittle over time and crack easily.
Liklihood of it blowing out is pretty low, and even lower that someone will be in a dangerous position when it happens, but just letting you know why PVC isnt' supposed to be used with compressed air.
Posted on 3/5/19 at 4:06 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:coming with that kind of info, it is good practice to link the reference.
You can't use PVC with air compressors. It's against OSHA standards.
Posted on 3/5/19 at 4:30 pm to CarRamrod
quote:
coming with that kind of info, it is good practice to link the reference.
Everything that I have read online has said what he said. Thus why I am going with Copper. I had planned on going with Sched 80 pvc but, I'm just not going to take the risk. It will be my luck that it explodes and sends shards of pvc that kills my preacher or something..
Looks like I will have approx 120' of pipe with 3 downruns. Planning on having ball valves on each in order to drain moisture.
What about regulators? Should I have regulators on each drop?
What about periodic drops in the line? I've read that you should have basically a U in your line to collect water at certain points.
Also read that you should come off the top of the run with your drops instead of the bottoms.
I appreciate the feedback
Posted on 3/5/19 at 4:36 pm to Farmtiger
Buy a compressed air plumbing kit designed for this purpose. will be easier to install than copper, the wall mount air stations are much nicer than DIY, and have individual water drains, and you will probably save a little money. There are numerous levels of kits , and you can buy extra fitting and air stations if needed. There are numerous brands of this stuff, this one is pretty good.
LINK
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This post was edited on 3/5/19 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 3/5/19 at 4:40 pm to Farmtiger
Yes you should come off the top for your drops, but for a home shop it really doesn’t matter. Water is always going to collect in the drops, just have a way to purge that water at the end of each drop.
If youre that worried about water, then just get a small refrigerated dryer.
Buying multiple regulators is a bit silly. If you have that many thing that need regulated air, then just put one at the compressor discharge.
If youre that worried about water, then just get a small refrigerated dryer.
Buying multiple regulators is a bit silly. If you have that many thing that need regulated air, then just put one at the compressor discharge.
Posted on 3/5/19 at 4:55 pm to Farmtiger
You need to look into Trans-Air piping. It's a coated aluminum tubing that's made for compressed air systems. Super easy to install. Connector Specialists is the local distributor here in BR.
Posted on 3/5/19 at 7:24 pm to Farmtiger
I've seen pvc pipe explode before and it was pretty impressive/scary. But it was intentionally done and took much more pressure than what general purpose compressed air is. Pex might be a solution but I'm not sure about the higher pressures.
Posted on 3/5/19 at 7:33 pm to Chuker
I’m using pex. Got a ton laying around. I’ll report back in a couple of months and let you know if it was a mistake.
Posted on 3/5/19 at 8:44 pm to Farmtiger
but why copper?
You don't have to use PVC, but you also don't have to use copper.
You don't have to use PVC, but you also don't have to use copper.
Posted on 3/5/19 at 9:37 pm to Trout Bandit
Was going to suggest trans air as well.
I did a plant job with it and it went together so easily. A few runs for the shop will cost the same or less than copper.
I did a plant job with it and it went together so easily. A few runs for the shop will cost the same or less than copper.
Posted on 3/5/19 at 9:40 pm to Farmtiger
Whats wrong with PVC?
We have three large compressors in three large buildings (two around 50000 feet) and we have PVC airlines running all through them.
We do have pressure regulators too.
We have three large compressors in three large buildings (two around 50000 feet) and we have PVC airlines running all through them.
We do have pressure regulators too.
This post was edited on 3/5/19 at 9:43 pm
Posted on 3/5/19 at 9:52 pm to I B Freeman
Tell your idiot boss, which I’m sure I already have, to quit running PVC for compressed air. I already explained why you don’t use it.
Running it at home is pretty harmless. Running it at a large facility is moronic, and the major compressor companies will refuse to do any work on those compressors with PVC.
Running it at home is pretty harmless. Running it at a large facility is moronic, and the major compressor companies will refuse to do any work on those compressors with PVC.
Posted on 3/5/19 at 9:52 pm to Farmtiger
I would personally use regular black steel pipe. Just get yourself a chop saw and a pipe threader in the size that you choose and get to work. This will give much more structural stability than plastic or copper...remember, there is a pretty good load hanging on your quick connects when the air hose is plugged in.
Basically need to run the common line up high in the shop and then use threaded tees to drop to where your hose plug ins will be. At each hose plug, tee down to a drip leg and horizontally out through a ball valve and finally to your quick connect.
Have your compressor where you can periodically blow the water out of the tank, too.
Basically need to run the common line up high in the shop and then use threaded tees to drop to where your hose plug ins will be. At each hose plug, tee down to a drip leg and horizontally out through a ball valve and finally to your quick connect.
Have your compressor where you can periodically blow the water out of the tank, too.
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