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A-400 problems

Posted on 1/22/16 at 10:37 pm
Posted by drakeT1217
Member since Jun 2010
782 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 10:37 pm
I bought a beretta extrema when they first came out. It was the first one that Simmons sporting goods got in as a demo gun. I hunt 45+ mornings a year, every year. That was the best gun I have ever owned. Last year I decided it was time to upgrade and bought the new A-400. I have had nothing but problems with the gun. If I do not completely break it down, take the trigger mechanism and all out after nearly every other hunt, the gun hangs up every couple of rounds. Even when I completely break it down it still hangs up. I generally spray it down with gun scrubber, spray it out with air, rem oil where I know it needs it. I take a q-tip to the gas parts and clean. I have a hard time blaming beretta because of how good my last gun was but something is defeintly wrong. I shoot federal 3.5" #2's. Anyone else have any trouble with this gun hanging up, way too much ?
This post was edited on 1/22/16 at 10:44 pm
Posted by ChatRabbit77
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
5910 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 10:42 pm to
It shouldn't. Maybe take it to a gunsmith or have Beretta do warranty work.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84834 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 11:19 pm to
Send it back
Posted by chesty
Flap City C.C.
Member since Oct 2012
12731 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 11:39 pm to
Def send it back.
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
19790 posts
Posted on 1/23/16 at 1:04 am to
I had the same problem because I ran it with cheap shells that were 2 3/4 but once I cleaned T he packing grease out of it I haven't had any problems. I did use a paper clip and mineral spirits vs gun oil but it has work great since.
This post was edited on 1/23/16 at 1:08 am
Posted by drakeT1217
Member since Jun 2010
782 posts
Posted on 1/23/16 at 7:50 am to
Tried shooting Remington hypersonics this morning. Having the same results
Posted by Uncle Brady
Tampa, FL
Member since Aug 2005
905 posts
Posted on 1/23/16 at 8:32 am to
Sucks man. I stripped all packing grease and relubed light with frog lube. Been shooting Remington Club 2.75 1-1/8 for sporting clays. No issues.

This shotty likes light lube.
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
61760 posts
Posted on 1/23/16 at 9:00 am to
Almost everyone that I know has had that problem with their A400 early. A good cleaning and it stopped. It was most likely from the grease the factory put in it. If you are still having that problem with that many hunts I would send it back to Beretta. They'll make it right.
Posted by Tigah Jr
The Stick
Member since Oct 2011
846 posts
Posted on 1/23/16 at 9:09 am to
Don't use Rem oil, use 3 in 1. Rem oil will make your gun hang up in temps below 32 degrees. That being said if you're hunting in south LA that should not be much of a problem.
Posted by BayouTea
Member since Dec 2015
3 posts
Posted on 1/23/16 at 2:25 pm to
So I purchased the same gun about 2yrs ago. When I purchased it the rep at Gander Mt advise me every season shoot 1x box of heavy dove load to break in. By doing this its allows the gas system to be fully loose.

Did my first clay shoot by the 3rd station gun began to jam up. Come to find out shooting cheap shells were the root cause. Next shoot I've switch to win xx w/ 1.125 oz load. Never jammed up again.

Light loads won't have Enough enershia to eject and reload.

Good luck buddy!
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19940 posts
Posted on 1/23/16 at 2:33 pm to
A-400's are gas guns, not inertia driven. Mine has never had issues, even with cheap Rio 1oz target loads. I cleaned mine and relubed with CLP and ran a few boxes of mag game loads per the instruction manual. I put 300 rounds of mixed Rio and Winchester target ammo through it a month ago in a single clay session.
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
61760 posts
Posted on 1/23/16 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

enershia


Is she black?
Posted by dawg23
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jul 2011
5066 posts
Posted on 1/23/16 at 5:21 pm to
quote:

A-400's are gas guns, not inertia driven. Mine has never had issues, even with cheap Rio 1oz target loads. I cleaned mine and relubed with CLP and ran a few boxes of mag game loads per the instruction manual. I put 300 rounds of mixed Rio and Winchester target ammo through it a month ago in a single clay session.
I mostly shoot Rio "target loads" (slightly lower velocity than the Rio game loads that Academy runs on sale every fall) through my A400 Xplor .

I've been shooting a little less often lately (cold/rainy weather and I'm a wuss), but I would guess I've shot 808-1000 boxs of Rio, Estate and Fiocchi shells through mine since I bought it, plus a few boxes of 3" and 3.5" duck loads. I can recall exactly two occasions when an empty hull failed to eject (both times during a sporting clays tournament). A good cleaning stopped that issue.

I clean my gun every 500-800 rounds (I'm lazy). I cleaned my Beretta 391's just about that often. The 391's were very reliable and the A400 has been even more reliable.

Sending the OP's gun back to Beretta is something he should consider. But I will say that one of my sons has a 20 gauge Beretta 390 that has given him failure-to-extract//eject problems from day one. He sent it back to Beretta, but that didn't help a bit. He still has that gun but it never gets used. I guess every manufacturer makes one every now & then that's just "out of spec."
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
25145 posts
Posted on 1/23/16 at 5:46 pm to
Shoot it - a lot, and I mean a lot. We ran into the same issue and pretty much just had to shoot them through it. It seems the newer ones have the issue.
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61451 posts
Posted on 1/23/16 at 6:19 pm to
I bought one before this season and didn't clean it until I had probably shot 2 cases. Only time I cleaned it all year and had no hang ups through about 5 cases.

Every shot was 3" though so probably made a difference
Posted by drakeT1217
Member since Jun 2010
782 posts
Posted on 1/23/16 at 7:19 pm to
Is there a chance I could clean it too much? I mean it gets shot a lot but I clean it a lot also. I will say 3.5's hang up way worse than 3's. I'm going to make it through next week and do something about it.
FYI dust collecting in the oil is not an issue. It's always in a case to and from the blind.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
29014 posts
Posted on 1/23/16 at 8:14 pm to
Can you tell why it's failing? Failure to extract? Is the shell too tight in the chamber causing it to not extract? Is the extractor spring too light?

Have you looked at the main spring in the stock?
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19940 posts
Posted on 1/23/16 at 8:36 pm to
Can't clean it too much but you can leave too much lubricant/solvent in the chamber. Chamber should be as dry as you can make it before shooting. I always run a dry cotton bore swab though all my firearms before taking them out.
Posted by drakeT1217
Member since Jun 2010
782 posts
Posted on 1/23/16 at 9:01 pm to
It will eject the shell I just have to take my hand and push it up to finish the chambering or whatever you want to call it.
Posted by ChatRabbit77
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
5910 posts
Posted on 1/23/16 at 9:11 pm to
quote:

Chamber should be as dry as you can make it before shooting

This is key. I run everything bone dry in the chamber.
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