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A-400 problems
Posted on 1/22/16 at 10:37 pm
Posted on 1/22/16 at 10:37 pm
I bought a beretta extrema when they first came out. It was the first one that Simmons sporting goods got in as a demo gun. I hunt 45+ mornings a year, every year. That was the best gun I have ever owned. Last year I decided it was time to upgrade and bought the new A-400. I have had nothing but problems with the gun. If I do not completely break it down, take the trigger mechanism and all out after nearly every other hunt, the gun hangs up every couple of rounds. Even when I completely break it down it still hangs up. I generally spray it down with gun scrubber, spray it out with air, rem oil where I know it needs it. I take a q-tip to the gas parts and clean. I have a hard time blaming beretta because of how good my last gun was but something is defeintly wrong. I shoot federal 3.5" #2's. Anyone else have any trouble with this gun hanging up, way too much ?
This post was edited on 1/22/16 at 10:44 pm
Posted on 1/22/16 at 10:42 pm to drakeT1217
It shouldn't. Maybe take it to a gunsmith or have Beretta do warranty work.
Posted on 1/23/16 at 1:04 am to drakeT1217
I had the same problem because I ran it with cheap shells that were 2 3/4 but once I cleaned T he packing grease out of it I haven't had any problems. I did use a paper clip and mineral spirits vs gun oil but it has work great since.
This post was edited on 1/23/16 at 1:08 am
Posted on 1/23/16 at 7:50 am to Rize
Tried shooting Remington hypersonics this morning. Having the same results
Posted on 1/23/16 at 8:32 am to drakeT1217
Sucks man. I stripped all packing grease and relubed light with frog lube. Been shooting Remington Club 2.75 1-1/8 for sporting clays. No issues.
This shotty likes light lube.
This shotty likes light lube.
Posted on 1/23/16 at 9:00 am to drakeT1217
Almost everyone that I know has had that problem with their A400 early. A good cleaning and it stopped. It was most likely from the grease the factory put in it. If you are still having that problem with that many hunts I would send it back to Beretta. They'll make it right.
Posted on 1/23/16 at 9:09 am to drakeT1217
Don't use Rem oil, use 3 in 1. Rem oil will make your gun hang up in temps below 32 degrees. That being said if you're hunting in south LA that should not be much of a problem.
Posted on 1/23/16 at 2:25 pm to drakeT1217
So I purchased the same gun about 2yrs ago. When I purchased it the rep at Gander Mt advise me every season shoot 1x box of heavy dove load to break in. By doing this its allows the gas system to be fully loose.
Did my first clay shoot by the 3rd station gun began to jam up. Come to find out shooting cheap shells were the root cause. Next shoot I've switch to win xx w/ 1.125 oz load. Never jammed up again.
Light loads won't have Enough enershia to eject and reload.
Good luck buddy!
Did my first clay shoot by the 3rd station gun began to jam up. Come to find out shooting cheap shells were the root cause. Next shoot I've switch to win xx w/ 1.125 oz load. Never jammed up again.
Light loads won't have Enough enershia to eject and reload.
Good luck buddy!
Posted on 1/23/16 at 2:33 pm to BayouTea
A-400's are gas guns, not inertia driven. Mine has never had issues, even with cheap Rio 1oz target loads. I cleaned mine and relubed with CLP and ran a few boxes of mag game loads per the instruction manual. I put 300 rounds of mixed Rio and Winchester target ammo through it a month ago in a single clay session.
Posted on 1/23/16 at 3:11 pm to BayouTea
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Posted on 1/23/16 at 5:21 pm to Clames
quote:I mostly shoot Rio "target loads" (slightly lower velocity than the Rio game loads that Academy runs on sale every fall) through my A400 Xplor .
A-400's are gas guns, not inertia driven. Mine has never had issues, even with cheap Rio 1oz target loads. I cleaned mine and relubed with CLP and ran a few boxes of mag game loads per the instruction manual. I put 300 rounds of mixed Rio and Winchester target ammo through it a month ago in a single clay session.
I've been shooting a little less often lately (cold/rainy weather and I'm a wuss), but I would guess I've shot 808-1000 boxs of Rio, Estate and Fiocchi shells through mine since I bought it, plus a few boxes of 3" and 3.5" duck loads. I can recall exactly two occasions when an empty hull failed to eject (both times during a sporting clays tournament). A good cleaning stopped that issue.
I clean my gun every 500-800 rounds (I'm lazy). I cleaned my Beretta 391's just about that often. The 391's were very reliable and the A400 has been even more reliable.
Sending the OP's gun back to Beretta is something he should consider. But I will say that one of my sons has a 20 gauge Beretta 390 that has given him failure-to-extract//eject problems from day one. He sent it back to Beretta, but that didn't help a bit. He still has that gun but it never gets used. I guess every manufacturer makes one every now & then that's just "out of spec."
Posted on 1/23/16 at 5:46 pm to drakeT1217
Shoot it - a lot, and I mean a lot. We ran into the same issue and pretty much just had to shoot them through it. It seems the newer ones have the issue.
Posted on 1/23/16 at 6:19 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
I bought one before this season and didn't clean it until I had probably shot 2 cases. Only time I cleaned it all year and had no hang ups through about 5 cases.
Every shot was 3" though so probably made a difference
Every shot was 3" though so probably made a difference
Posted on 1/23/16 at 7:19 pm to Croacka
Is there a chance I could clean it too much? I mean it gets shot a lot but I clean it a lot also. I will say 3.5's hang up way worse than 3's. I'm going to make it through next week and do something about it.
FYI dust collecting in the oil is not an issue. It's always in a case to and from the blind.
FYI dust collecting in the oil is not an issue. It's always in a case to and from the blind.
Posted on 1/23/16 at 8:14 pm to drakeT1217
Can you tell why it's failing? Failure to extract? Is the shell too tight in the chamber causing it to not extract? Is the extractor spring too light?
Have you looked at the main spring in the stock?
Have you looked at the main spring in the stock?
Posted on 1/23/16 at 8:36 pm to drakeT1217
Can't clean it too much but you can leave too much lubricant/solvent in the chamber. Chamber should be as dry as you can make it before shooting. I always run a dry cotton bore swab though all my firearms before taking them out.
Posted on 1/23/16 at 9:01 pm to bbvdd
It will eject the shell I just have to take my hand and push it up to finish the chambering or whatever you want to call it.
Posted on 1/23/16 at 9:11 pm to Clames
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Chamber should be as dry as you can make it before shooting
This is key. I run everything bone dry in the chamber.
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