re: 7mm-08 vs 6.5 CM for youth

I’m not trying to roast anyone, I just want to make sure people understand that your gun isn’t a laser.

A dude I was in a club with told me held a “couple inches high” on a deer he was shooting at around 350 yards with a 6.5 Creedmoor. His gun was zeroed an inch high at 100. On a ballistics table his bullet would’ve been at least 10” low at 350. He said he doesn’t think it drops that much cause “Creedmoors are flat shooters”. I think that whole experience probably generated some “I hit a deer with a 143 eldx and never found it or blood” type anecdote.

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Usually tops out in the low 300s for even very fast magnums, so no cartridge is gonna be exactly point and shoot for 400 yards,

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Its amazing how much extra powder and bullet it takes to extend that range much beyond 300 yards. "Slow" cartridges like .308 are only 20-50 yards shorter MPBR than the biggest kaboomers.

I think a .308 with 150's is around 280 yards and a .30-378 is 330ish???? IIRC.

Point being, once you get past 250ish you're going to need to have your shite together regardless of the caliber

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257 WBY 3” high @ 100 8” low @ 400 115 ballistic tip

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Exceptionally flat, very cool southern whitetail gun

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115 ballistic tip

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I have a couple boxes of these for my 257. The 110 accubonds shoot pretty good too…but if it ain’t broke

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The amount of deer hunting stories of those who shoot the 6.5cm and lose a blood trail are far too many. It's a fast round and has a purpose. If you are shooting 500-700 yards, in an open area, possibly in the mountains of Idaho, yeah go for the 6.5cm.

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The 6.5 Creedmoor is slow. It was just designed to shoot heavier bullets with higher ballistic coefficients so wind drift isn’t as severe. But fast it is not.

Muzzle velocity of a factory 140 grain 6.5 Creedmoor is 2700-2800 fps.

Muzzle velocity of a factory 140 grain 7mm/08 is 2750-2850 fps.

There is not any real world difference between them, one is shooting a .284 bullet and one is shooting a .264 bullet. Either will work with a good shot. Either will fail with a poor shot. The problem with the 6.5 Creedmoor is that people think it is a magical cartridge that will suddenly allow them to make 300+ yard shots when they can’t and people using match grade bullets designed for shooting targets and not deer.

I have two .257 weatherbys. Great cartridge, especially if you load. I shoot, or shot, the same 110 accubond load with 70 grains of rl22 in each.

Whatever you do, DO NOT get a 6.5-300 weatherby. Just don’t do it. I thought the .257 weatherby was the perfect long range (out to 500 yards), low recoiling cartridge for southern deer hunting. It is not, that would be the 6.5-300 weatherby shooting a 127 LRX on top of 90 grains of US869.

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90 grains of US869.

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Holy shite

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Both will kill deer but you have alot more options with the 7mm-08.

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oh I don't think that's true at all anymore. Have you been to the academy ammo rack? 6.5 is everywhere... second to only 308 probably

I’ve seen many of deer killed with each caliber and with well placed shot they both do the job. In my opinion it comes down to the bullet itself that makes the most difference.
That being said in my opinion the 7mm-08 is a better cartridge even out to 1000 yards with the correct bullet. And within 500 yards there is really no comparison. What people don’t look at is the range in hunting bullet weights you can run in a 7mm-08 and be more effective out to distance than the 6.5 can. Most people run the stereotypical 140 grain bullet out of each cartridge. But if you get to researching and doing the ballistic. You’ll realize that the 7mm-08 can trump a 6.5 with heavier hunting loads

It depends. Do you want your yutes to learn to kill a deer or track wounded deer?