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re: 40 Cal vs. 9mm
Posted on 5/23/13 at 2:59 pm to TheVille518518
Posted on 5/23/13 at 2:59 pm to TheVille518518
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40...post pics when you buy
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 2:59 pm to ctiger69
Define this power you speak of please.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 3:04 pm to Five0
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Define this power you speak of please.
Winchester PXD1 defender:
9mm +p 124 grain= 10 yards= 381 ft-lbs/sec
40 165 grain= 10 yards= 458 ft-lbs/sec
40 has more power.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 3:10 pm to ctiger69
Springfield xdm 9 mm holds 20 rounds 
Posted on 5/23/13 at 3:12 pm to ctiger69
"PISTOLS... SUCK!, but last time I walked into a bank with an AK on my back, they got really nervous...."
Long winded, but great information..
9 vs. .45 via the late great Paul Gomez
If the "FBI Test Protocols" are 12" minimum/18" max of penetration, then why would you want a gun that is more powerful? 9mm with JHP's meets these standards easily. All self defense ammo is manufactured with those end results in mind
Long winded, but great information..
9 vs. .45 via the late great Paul Gomez
If the "FBI Test Protocols" are 12" minimum/18" max of penetration, then why would you want a gun that is more powerful? 9mm with JHP's meets these standards easily. All self defense ammo is manufactured with those end results in mind
Posted on 5/23/13 at 3:12 pm to ctiger69
That is velocity. Most handgun rounds do not have enough of it to create wound cavities like rifle rounds. This is why penetration is more important with handgun rounds. It is also why marksmanship and follow up shots with a handgun are important. Hand guns are defensive weapons for poking holes. If the holes are not in the right place or deep enough you are in trouble. Just my opinion on a board so 
Posted on 5/23/13 at 3:16 pm to Wooly
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40 Cal vs. 9mm
Sheesh.
I prefer 9mm.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 3:20 pm to Wooly
Whichever you want. Both good. Pick te pistol you shoot best.
Or get both FTW
Or get both FTW
Posted on 5/23/13 at 3:20 pm to Five0
There is a slight difference in power but really not that much. It's not like comparing the power of a 300 wm vs 30-30.
Keep in mind the powerful 9mm +p+ bullets really are not that cheap and they do have more recoil compared to the cheap 9mm ammo. So I figured if I want to shoot these hot rounds I might as well buy a 40 S&W.
My 40 S&W holds 13 rounds. That should be plenty of rounds to stop a bad guy or two.
Keep in mind the powerful 9mm +p+ bullets really are not that cheap and they do have more recoil compared to the cheap 9mm ammo. So I figured if I want to shoot these hot rounds I might as well buy a 40 S&W.
My 40 S&W holds 13 rounds. That should be plenty of rounds to stop a bad guy or two.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 3:25 pm to ctiger69
Practice with some cheap fmj rounds. When you are carrying for your protection and that of yours, carry the best performing round for the caliber of your weapon, price be damned.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 3:44 pm to Wooly
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im neither, but i thought barneys in Laffy sells at LEO prices
They sold one to my dad for $434 plus tax with 3 magazines. He's not shitting me because I saw it with my own 2 eyes.
I'm not sure if they still do LEO pricing, but as far as I saw, they were ALL LEO priced and sold them to anyone.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 3:57 pm to bapple
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They sold one to my dad for $434 plus tax with 3 magazines. He's not shitting me because I saw it with my own 2 eyes.
Don't doubt you at all. If you can find it snatch that gun up baby.
The place I usually buy firearms only just recently started allowing non-LEOs to enter the store on a membership basis. I have never ever turned down a quality firearm at a good price. You will not lose your money in the long run, period.Posted on 5/23/13 at 3:59 pm to Five0
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The place I usually buy firearms only just recently started allowing non-LEOs to enter the store on a membership basis.
That's why I was so surprised when they quoted him that cheap of a price. I didn't believe it at first and thought he would need LEO credentials. But nope, they were very nice and gave us a good deal.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 4:04 pm to Wooly
No best answer since much is personal preference.
If inexperienced, go 9mm.
Shoot a few calibers first and go with what you like.
9mm is normally cheaper which allows you to practice more.
You cannot go wrong with a good 9mm gun.
But, although my favorite gun is a 9mm as well as my primary carry, I personally prefer my .40 or .45 for HD.
If inexperienced, go 9mm.
Shoot a few calibers first and go with what you like.
9mm is normally cheaper which allows you to practice more.
You cannot go wrong with a good 9mm gun.
But, although my favorite gun is a 9mm as well as my primary carry, I personally prefer my .40 or .45 for HD.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 4:05 pm to ctiger69
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The recoil felt the same to me. So I choose the 40. I wanted the power.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 4:06 pm to TigerDeacon
A Forty sounds more gangsta.
So I went with the 9.
boom roasted.
So I went with the 9.
boom roasted.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 4:13 pm to Wooly
quote:Not trying to be an azz but there's a lot wrong with that statement.
never shot one.... im not going to buy a gun in a caliber i have never shot
Shooting ONE gun in any given caliber doesn't tell you much, imo.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 4:23 pm to meauxjeaux2
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this place is turning int the country boy OT.
been trending in that direction for a good while....
Posted on 5/23/13 at 4:24 pm to gmrkr5
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been trending in that direction for a good while....
is this the part where we all need to grab and rub our crotches and spit on the ground?
Posted on 5/23/13 at 4:26 pm to Geauxtiga
When I bought my M&P 9, I chose the one I did because I got a great deal on it. However, all things being equal, I would have preferred the 40. Not because of the 'which has the most knockdown power' debate, but for flexibility. When you buy a 40 cal you can usually buy a 9 mm or 357 sig conversion barrel and shoot that when its the only ammo you can find.
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