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re: 22 LR bolt action vs. Ruger 10/22; Now looking for Optic Suggestions

Posted on 1/8/25 at 6:03 pm to
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 6:03 pm to
My dad has a 10/22 and an old browning (i think) pump 22. My brother and I used to fight over who got to shoot the pump. Both of them were fun as all hell. You can't go wrong with a 10/22.
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
2251 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 6:10 pm to
Do the CZ rimfires have the ‘backward’ safety? That’d be a hard pass for me for a new shooter.
Posted by OeauxMy
Member since Feb 2017
361 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 6:28 pm to
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CZ has a Scout model 457 that I’d highly recommend


I have the 457 American, and it is a sweet little gun. Great fit and feel. If you were choosing a gun for me thanks what I’d pick. There are trigger upgrades available, but I think the stock trigger is pretty good as is

I also believe the bolt action will teach a young hunter to slow down and focus on what they are doing.
Posted by Tangineck
Mandeville
Member since Nov 2017
2717 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 7:01 pm to
Vote for CZ bolt action here as well. Mine is my absolute favorite gun I own, and is unbelievably accurate.

Ruger 10/22 is a well made, fine rife. As is the Marlin 60.

I do not recommend a lever action as a first rifle. In my opinion they are not as safe because of the cycling mechanism being in such close proximity to the trigger.
Posted by Jon A thon
Member since May 2019
2368 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 7:49 pm to
Just for reference, son is 10. So not super young. He's shot 10/22's and a lever action 22lr before in addition to my .223 and .300 BO. I hunted growing up, but since we've moved out to the Houston area, I'm separated from the easy access I had before, so all my shooting is at the range. His will be 99.9% of the time as well. Maybe once a year at Thanksgiving we could get out to the camp of friends and family. We went to the range this past weekend with a friend who had a customized 10/22 and he seemed to have a good time. With my bigger guns, he's been willing, but doesn't really enjoy it all that much due to the noise and kick. Hoping this builds up his confidence and comfort. I just moved to a new range with a 100 yard indoor range and as a member he gets to tag along for free anytime. The semi auto feature of the 10/22 won't be as cool for him as it was for me as a kid getting to walk the woods and unload on stuff. The 100 yard range has no "rapid" fire, so I don't mind a bolt gun. But again, 10/22 is just so affordable and sufficent, with so many options to make it your own if you so desire (and I'm that kind of person).

Funny thing is he really wants a wood stock. and I want something with a threaded barrel for a suppressor. Not a lot of options in the bolt guns. They are all super cool looking to me, but he truly is drawn to something like the base level 10/22. We are almost certainly going to just end up with that, but just like to look around first.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 7:57 pm to
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Do the CZ rimfires have the ‘backward’ safety?


Not anymore
Posted by Ol boy
Member since Oct 2018
3923 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 8:04 pm to
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Funny thing is he really wants a wood stock. and I want something with a threaded barrel for a suppressor. Not a lot of options in the bolt guns

Not trying to convince you either way because you really can’t go wrong with semi or auto in a 22.
But ruger American is threaded and you can buy an aftermarket stock for it and have what you and he wants.
Check out Boyd’s for a wood lower end price ~200$
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
14608 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 8:16 pm to
I vote bolt action. CZ’s look pretty nice.
Semi autos are overrated for anything less than war or self defense.
For me, bolt actions and lever actions are more fun than auto loaders.
Posted by HeadSlash
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Member since Aug 2006
54648 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 8:54 pm to
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Every young person should start with a single shot.


My uncle taught me to shoot with a single shot lever action with a crappy ejector.
Posted by Ncook
Member since Feb 2019
721 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:18 pm to
A replacement trigger or a trigger job kit from Brownells at a minimum, makes a big improvement in the accuracy of the 10/22
Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
7879 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 5:12 am to
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CZ has a Scout model 457 that I’d highly recommend

CZ 457 Varmint here
Posted by Tight 10
Member since Nov 2021
482 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 5:58 am to
Bolt action is gonna be more accurate so if you’re more interested in him learning accuracy then buy that.
If you just want him to sling some lead buy the Ruger
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
8769 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 7:24 am to
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Funny thing is he really wants a wood stock. and I want something with a threaded barrel for a suppressor.


Tikka T1X offers wood. Bolt, threaded, walnut, but fairly pricey after stamp and suppressor and scope.

Still…

A Gunbroker option, one of several
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
2251 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 7:58 am to
That’s great news.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
33437 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 8:10 am to
I feel like everyone needs a 10/22 and a bolt action 22.

I love my CZ452 American, I got it before the 457 had been released. Its a slick rifle. I had mine threaded which wasnt a big deal, just a couple weeks without it.
Posted by Jon A thon
Member since May 2019
2368 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 8:19 am to
So, the more I think about it, I really want a good bolt action more than he would care. Which ends up with me spending my time, energy, and money on the gun and taking it over, haha. So true best option is to get the 10/22 that he would be happy with now, then get the bolt action I'd be happy with and he can grow into using that as he get's older and really cares about accuracy.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
28004 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 11:12 am to
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Bolt action is gonna be more accurate


Why do you think this?
Posted by Ncook
Member since Feb 2019
721 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 11:44 am to
I can tell you this.

Buddy of mine owns a Model 54 Match bolt action Anschutz.

We took a 10/22 and put a Volquartsen bull barrel on it, dropped it in a Volquartsen stock and put a trigger kit in it.

Same ammo in both at 35 yards and both on the bags.

Groups were identical. One ragged hole.

He still has the Anschutz but switched to the 10/22 for his squirrel hunting.
Less movement. Subsonic ammo

Head shots only. A little killing machine
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
70880 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 11:47 am to
Yea, not true with rimfires.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
28004 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 11:57 am to
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Yea, not true with rimfires.


Yep, I have a BRN receiver (Brownells 10/22) that I built with a Voltquartsen carbon fiber barrel and it is my most accurate rimfire rifle.
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