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re: Lindsey Vonn just finished her first downhill run at Cortina

Posted on 2/7/26 at 7:00 pm to
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 2/7/26 at 7:00 pm to
Would like to know what they are shooting her up with.
Posted by bbap
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Posted on 2/8/26 at 8:27 am to
I guess it turns out two healthy ACLs is slightly important.
Posted by Trauma14
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Posted on 2/8/26 at 8:48 am to
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I guess it turns out two healthy ACLs is slightly important.


Yep, just airlifted off the mountain again. 2nd time to be airlifted off in just 12 days.
Posted by tgrfan87
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Posted on 2/8/26 at 8:49 am to
That was tough to watch. Damn I was pullling for her to have a good run. The total silence by the spectators was telling everyone was pulling for her.
Posted by wertheimer
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Posted on 2/8/26 at 8:54 am to
That was a nasty crash. Admittedly I was a bit worried even before her run, and then that happened. Tough way to go out there.
Posted by T1gerNate
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Posted on 2/8/26 at 9:08 am to
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This post was edited on 2/8/26 at 12:35 pm
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
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Posted on 2/8/26 at 9:34 am to
When did this happen? Meaning our time zone?? Because it is already near impossible to find on YouTube. Only finding clips and stills with reactions of people you never heard of. NBC being very tight with this I guess since it’s something people finally give a shite about. Even though it’s a negative outcome.
Posted by tylercsbn9
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Posted on 2/8/26 at 9:38 am to
Well deserved for being selfish and taking a spot from someone else

Wonder how her time compared to alternates today?
This post was edited on 2/8/26 at 9:41 am
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 2/8/26 at 9:45 am to
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When did this happen? Meaning our time zone??


Early AM.

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Because it is already near impossible to find on YouTube.


Newsflash. NBC has olympic coverage on lockdown.
This post was edited on 2/8/26 at 9:46 am
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 2/8/26 at 9:59 am to
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That was a nasty crash.


That type of crash, where your skis are off the ground and then reengage when they hit the snow, is one of the mechanisms that can cause an ACL rupture. You go from zero loading on the skis in instaneous high load. The ACL can take significant stress, if the pressue is built slowly and not all at once.

We used to have to watch the "ACL awareness video" every year and they baseline tested our knees every year. I've highlighted several of the danger areas that were present in this fall...

Here's the last image...



Here' s the transcript to that video..

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Back in the 1970s, lots of skiers broke their legs. These days, broken legs have declined by 90 percent, thanks to advances in boot and binding technology. But a more insidious injury has tripled and is now far more common - serious knee injuries involving the anterior cruciate ligament, or ACL.

“What we have today is the chance of blowing out your knee in one in 2,500 skier visits,” said Carl Ettlinger, a mechanical engineer with Vermont Safety Research Inc.

Ettlinger’s firm, which trains ski technicians and does ski-safety research, and two Eastern universities have just completed a 13-year study of ski injuries that will be published later this year in the American Journal of Sports Medicine.

But what should matter to every skier out there today isn’t the research. It’s the training program the researchers have developed to help skiers avoid ACL injuries a program that cut those injuries by 62 percent among ski instructors and patrollers in the study.

An ACL injury is a serious and painful one that often requires years of rehabilitation. Treatment is not always successful.

Schweitzer Mountain Resort is among more than 80 ski resorts nationwide that have signed up to use the ACL injury-prevention training program for their employees. “An ACL injury will put you out for a long while in the ski business,” said Dick Deam, Schweitzer’s safety director.

A blown-out knee in the ski school right at the start of the season prompted lots of interest in the program among Schweitzer’s ski instructors, who watched videos, discussed techniques and studied pamphlets and diagrams. Just a few weeks into the ski season, Deam said, “The ski school had probably shown it a dozen or more times.”

The reasons for the shocking increase in ACL injuries a sixth of the knee sprains in the ‘70s involved the ACL, now it’s two thirds have to do with modern ski boots and skis, along with more subtle changes in trail grooming and skiing style, Ettlinger said.

With the ski boot’s stiff back and the snappy tail of the modern ski, “What we have is a finely tuned carving device. And if we put ourselves in the wrong position, which is easy to do because all of our basic instincts work against us … we’re exceedingly vulnerable.”

The study found three common skiing situations that can lead to ACL injury. They are:

Attempting to get up while still moving after a fall.

Attempting to recover from an off-balance position.

Attempting to sit down after losing control.

The study also found six characteristics of ski accidents that produce ACL injuries. When all six are present, Ettlinger said, ACL injury to the downhill leg is imminent. The plus side of that is that avoiding as many of these elements as possible when you start to lose control can prevent the injury. The six typical factors are:

Uphill arm back.

Skier off-balance to the rear.

Hips are below the knees.

Uphill (inside) ski is unweighted.

All weight is on the inside edge of the downhill ski tail.

Upper body is generally facing the downhill ski.

The first three on that list are things that don’t fit in with good skiing technique, so they can be avoided by routinely trying to:

Keep arms forward (this is the answer to so many skiing technique problems!).

Keep hips above knees.

Maintain balance and control.

But if you’re already starting to fall, it’s a little hard to tell yourself to “maintain balance and control.”

The program offers these tips:

Don’t straighten your legs when you fall. Keep your knees flexed.

Don’t try to get up until you’ve stopped sliding. When you’re down, stay down.

Don’t land on your hand. Keep your arms up and forward.


Technology was able to deal with the broken-leg problem, because it was caused by more primitive ski equipment. But the knee injury problem is more complex, Ettlinger said. Its most common cause is the way we move and react when we get off-balance to the rear.

“This is a very subtle injury,” he said. “It’s not the result of a fall. In most cases, it’s the injury that causes the fall.”

The anti-ACL injury program includes a pamphlet and 17-minute video that are available to individuals, ski clubs and other noncommercial users for $33; call (802) 899-4738.

The first phase of the program has been targeted at ski resorts who rely on employees to ski for a living. But the new video is made for average skiers.




Uphill arm back. Check.
Skier off-balance to the rear. Check
Hips are below the knees. Check
Uphill (inside) ski is unweighted. Check
All weight is on the inside edge of the downhill ski tail. Check.
Upper body is generally facing the downhill ski.

From the position she's in, she's about to land on the tail of her downhill (outside) ski. This puts her left ACL in danger (isn't that the one she already tore?)
This post was edited on 2/8/26 at 10:06 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/8/26 at 9:59 am to
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Well deserved for being selfish and taking a spot from someone else Wonder how her time compared to alternates today?
are yall retsrded? Legit question

She wasn’t just faster than the alternates yesterday. She was faster than every single American besides Johnson
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:11 am to
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From the position she's in, she's about to land on the tail of her downhill (outside) ski. This puts her left ACL in danger (isn't that the one she already tore?)


It is but with the bracing they use (especially in this day and age) she would still have significant stabilization (think like when an OL plays with a torn ACL but has the brace that allows them to continue to play at a high level).

Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:34 am to
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She wasn’t just faster than the alternates yesterday. She was faster than every single American besides Johnson


And she was slower than everyone today
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:34 am to
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And she was slower than everyone today


She wasn’t the only one to crash today either.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:44 am to
I mean, it's already torn. It's not going to get worse. When I saw the crash, I didn't know if her previous injury was on the right of left. I was worried it was on the opposite side and she'd have two ACl's at the same time.....
Posted by MSUDawg98
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Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:53 am to
I have mixed feelings on this. The last two weeks for her suck. This result sucks for her (and Team USA). She should've taken the torn ACL as a sign that she should pull out. Instead we get this. The US wins it's first gold and all the attention goes to the attention whore who predictably crashed out. Lindsey, Lindsey, Lindsey..."who's Breezy Johnson?". The only positive about her going through the motions this weekend is that it took the spotlight off Mikaela Shiffrin. Hopefully she can go out (without the glare of NBC) and do what she's capable of doing.
Posted by OU Guy
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Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:55 am to
Posted by OU Guy
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Posted on 2/8/26 at 10:56 am to
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/8/26 at 11:02 am to
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I mean, it's already torn. It's not going to get worse. When I saw the crash, I didn't know if her previous injury was on the right of left. I was worried it was on the opposite side and she'd have two ACl's at the same time.....


Right. That was my larger point. The bracing provided the stabilization otherwise but with the crash she had (and how it happened) it wouldn’t have mattered whether she was healthy or not.
Posted by MSUDawg98
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Posted on 2/8/26 at 11:05 am to
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I mean, it's already torn. It's not going to get worse.
The ACL protects multiple parts of the knee. She likely shredded every connective tissue. She's going to be feeling this additional torn tissue for the rest of her life. Like her or not, nobody can question her toughness.

From earlier in the week...
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All the experts CNN spoke with emphasized that an immediate return to competition is far from the norm — and not recommended. Far more often, athletes do the opposite. Hitting the slopes would expose Vonn to substantial risk of further injury.

Plus, there was more to her injury. She also reported bone bruising and meniscal damage, both common companions to ACL injuries. These additional injuries raise the risk further, making her return to racing even more dangerous. The good news, though, is that Vonn didn’t report any significant bone fractures, Roche said.
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