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re: Zelensky willing to end war and concede territory in exchange for NATO membership

Posted on 11/29/24 at 7:50 pm to
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
129924 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 7:50 pm to
Here's just under 1000 years of border changes in Europe.



At which year were they expected to be permanent forever?
Posted by Royal
God's Country
Member since Apr 2009
1022 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 7:55 pm to
Bless your poor, little, stupid heart.
This post was edited on 11/29/24 at 8:00 pm
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
30668 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 7:55 pm to
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It’s almost as if they have no idea what they’re talking about.


Nobody knows what they’re talking about over in that shithole, the only truth is that they’re bilking a frick ton of other nations.
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
6694 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 8:05 pm to
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Does anyone actually think Russia going all out doesn't roll Ukraine? It's a half-assed, unpopular war, that reasonable people doubt Putin is 100% invested in.



I’m convinced it’s all a giant money laundering scheme that is enriching Putin, Zelensky and US politicians equally.
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
11494 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 8:18 pm to
I wonder if Zelenskyy is scared that his nest egg is in jeopardy.
Posted by northLAgoomba
Grand Cane, LA
Member since Nov 2009
3979 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 8:22 pm to
frick him. He's in no position to make demands.
Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
6503 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 8:40 pm to
I don’t believe he is in position to dictate terms. That war will end when Putin wants it to end
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
60604 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 8:49 pm to
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Putin waged this war due to Ukraine joining NATO


Why would this scare him? Has NATO ever gone into an offensive war or taken another country's land?
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
84093 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 8:56 pm to
frick him. He’s on his own and has had enough help
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
6211 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 9:15 pm to
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would this scare him? Has NATO ever gone into an offensive war or taken another country's land?


There’s a bunch of links and stories, including one from leftist npr:

Further reading

BUT, let’s say you have a coalition of nations not historically friendly to you, and Mexico is about to join, which would allow the placement of missiles and bases of said coalition at your border.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 10:08 pm to
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That's total bullshite. Putin started this war for geopolitical and economic reasons. The people posting here are clueless, and many are trolls. Putin wants to rebuild all of what broke apart after the fall of the USSR. This is called "neo-Eurasianism." He wants access to the Atlantic Ocean


You’ll believe anything the likes of Rachel Maddow tells you.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 10:11 pm to
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That sounds like a "conspiracy theory." Do you have any proof that there were 12 CIA bases? They usually don't advertise their bases.


The “conspiracy theory” is that Putin just suddenly woke up one day and decided to invade Ukraine completely unprovoked.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 10:13 pm to
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The political section of this forum is so filled with Russian trolls LINK it is useless to post anything there without the thread being hijacked if anybody posts an opposing view about Ukraine with facts and links. Now they have moved to the O-T Lounge.


The fact is you’re a mouth breathing mental midget who has no retort but “Russian trolls” because you can’t defend anything in this war without such an attack. You’re a retard.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 10:15 pm to
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The end goal is for Russia to continue taking over country after country until they reach warm (unfrozen) water on the Atlantic (Scandinavia). This will also mean an attack on NATO soil. Russia is largely land locked and only has access to the Pacific. According to Dugan, Atlantic access will make it easier for them to compete with America.The only way Russia can compete and defeat the US, is through subversion.


Ahh, yes, he’s Hitler!

Or more likely you’re a fricking retard.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
117312 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 10:28 pm to
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Holy shite. Imagine being this stupid. Of course most of us can't, but damn what an idiot.


Seriously, you need to do your homework.
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
188570 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 10:33 pm to
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Seriously, you need to do your homework.


u telling anyone this is regarding any subject is rich
Posted by dsides
Member since Jan 2013
6127 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 10:45 pm to
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The public don't care because of their short attention span and memory.


You sound smart
Posted by Bushmaster
19th Hole
Member since Oct 2008
39925 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 10:57 pm to
The day Zelensky assumes room temperature is a good day. But probably not before he gets to spend his billions we’ve sent him while our own disabled, limbs blown off veterans can’t get a proper wheelchair.

Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
16931 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 11:15 pm to
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I don’t believe he is in position to dictate terms. That war will end when Putin wants it to end


Along with Putin and the Russia we’ve always known. They’re slaves to the Chinese now. Russia has a long and harsh winter coming.
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
8077 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 11:23 pm to
Of course he’s going to say that, NATO getting closer to Russia is why 100’s of thousands are dead. That Twink knows that’s a nonstarter, not even Trump will get that peace deal done.
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