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re: WWL 870 at noon today has 1031 Canal Development explaining Hard Rock collapse

Posted on 1/27/20 at 12:18 pm to
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32664 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 12:18 pm to
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Just wanna point out that Newell Normand is a douchebag idiot


He can be, but I do expect (and he has so far) that he will challenge this lawyer and not just allow scapegoating
Posted by Ice Cold
Over Macho Grande
Member since Jun 2004
18741 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 12:24 pm to
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There if you look on the Orleans Parish Tax assessors website..Trosclair does own one or two of the adjacent buildings.

He owns one of them because the GC caused it to collapse partially, and he wound up buying it along with the seller's litigious rights against the builder's risk insurer.

Don't know about another one.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37153 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 12:36 pm to
So nothing new here except we can now confirm Kallais' legal argument will be "it wasn't me"

And for him, that might work.

But his two partners are also involved in the construction of the building as one of them is the GC and the other is a sub.

Of the three partners, Kallais probably has the least puckered butthole.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57472 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 12:36 pm to
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“WE DID NOT DO THE CONSTRUCTION
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The limited liability company is a partnership between developer Mohan Kailas, who holds a majority stake; Todd Trosclair, owner of All-Star Electric; and Denzel Clark, president of Citadel Builders, the prime contractor on the project.

this kinda says you did.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 12:37 pm to
Citadel is the one that has to be locked up watertight right now.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 12:37 pm to
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Most interesting nugget so far is that 1031 (owner LLC) and the city both hired the same 3rd party engineers as consultants after the collapse

Seems like a conflict of interest?



Not necessarily. An engineer is required to always act first in the interests of public safety and then in the client's best interests and is allowed to provide professional services to two entities on the same project provided all interested parties receive full disclosure in writing of the arrangement and all interested parties agree in writing to the arrangement.

For instance, if two parties to a project have aligned goals, then it could make sense for the same engineering firm to provide services to both of them if everyone agrees.

Personally, I think that operating that way is a bad idea in general because today's aligned goals are tomorrow's points of contention, ESPECIALLY in circumstances such as these which are inevitably going to end up in a courtroom.
This post was edited on 1/27/20 at 12:42 pm
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57472 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 12:39 pm to
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So either the design, execution, and/or materials are at fault.
That there is a Booger level observation.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75263 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 12:43 pm to
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WWL


Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35410 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 12:45 pm to
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the tarp issue


This poor guy’s been there all through the holidays and nobody thinks twice. The tarp comes off and all of a sudden everyone’s hair is on fire to get him down. Did nobody give a shite before?
Posted by HT713
Galations 4:16
Member since Jan 2011
10028 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 12:45 pm to
I'm at work so unable to listen

am I missing anything good or interesting at all
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57472 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 12:46 pm to
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Contractor is a part owner of 1031, but he wasn't at fault as part owner.

Called it a construction defect case

a little contradictory there, dont you think?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 12:50 pm to
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The tarp comes off and all of a sudden everyone’s hair is on fire to get him down.


Seeing the legs made it too real.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 12:52 pm to
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a little contradictory there, dont you think?


The conflict of interest seems real enough. I get the mental gymnastics Kailas is doing to say 1031 isn't responsible, but I don't think he does anything to preserve Citadel during this.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117732 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 12:53 pm to
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Normand isnt backing down






Leaders lead.
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 12:53 pm to
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quote:
The tarp comes off and all of a sudden everyone’s hair is on fire to get him down.


Seeing the legs made it too real.




I think a lot of folks assumed the bodies were more entombed. Legs hanging out amplified the reality for a lot of folks.
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32664 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 12:56 pm to
Did he say Kailas is personally paying all of the police/fire costs associated with this?

That's got to be a hefty fricking bill at this point
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 12:59 pm to
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Did he say Kailas is personally paying all of the police/fire costs associated with this?

That's got to be a hefty fricking bill at this point


Wondering if it will max out his insurance doing this and removing the building.

The atty keeps saying they want to resolve the cases against them, but he is also saying they don't have any liability.
Posted by RebelRye
Metairie, LA
Member since Nov 2018
1093 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 1:29 pm to
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PR guy wants to make sure everyone knows Kailas is the good guy. Apparently Kailas is paying for the police and fire support. Paying for the logistics. Quit being racist to him. This building was intended to save that corner. Hired reputable contractors. This is going to take more time.


He should have brought up the fact that a judge just filed an injuction to prohibit Kailas from harassing the tentants of one of this other buildings in order to evict them to renovate the building into another hotel. Sounds like a good guy there...
Nola.com article
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 1:32 pm to
That's a different management company than 1031.
Posted by oilmanNO
Member since Oct 2009
2844 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 1:41 pm to
He did
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