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Wouldn't making an effort to test everyone in the "hot spots" make the most sense?
Posted on 3/26/20 at 8:57 am
Posted on 3/26/20 at 8:57 am
As of right now, it would seem.
I coulnd't even tell you where testing is being offered in New Orleans or how to go about getting it done for me and my family if it was. If we are all clear, we'd like to get the hell out of dodge for a while maybe.
I coulnd't even tell you where testing is being offered in New Orleans or how to go about getting it done for me and my family if it was. If we are all clear, we'd like to get the hell out of dodge for a while maybe.
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Posted on 3/26/20 at 8:57 am to Y.A. Tittle
Without a way to force those that test positive to stay isolated it's a bit pointless.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 8:58 am to Y.A. Tittle
No. Tests are just for numbers
Posted on 3/26/20 at 8:59 am to PrivatePublic
But wouldn't encouraging the proven negatives to maybe get out of the way for a time, if they had the meanst to do so, make a lot more sense?
Posted on 3/26/20 at 8:59 am to Y.A. Tittle
StayIng in their houses would make most sense.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 9:00 am to Y.A. Tittle
New Orleans is so incompetent it couldn’t find water in the Ponchatrain
Posted on 3/26/20 at 9:00 am to PrivatePublic
In places like New Orleans that type of testing isn’t useful right now. In other places where the virus isn’t wide spread it would be the best way to keep it from spreading. States actually do have the power to quarantine an individual they know is infected.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 9:07 am to Dizz
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States actually do have the power to quarantine an individual they know is infected.
How? Throw them in jail? Elaborate because I think you're full of shite.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 9:10 am to Y.A. Tittle
no no no and hell no, only the old need testing, the young will have bad cold symptoms only so wtf are you testing all of them for?
no because it takes testing them every single day for 14-15 days to be sure they arent infected and 1 hour after they leave testing certified as "clean" they could contract it and then spread it everywhere because they had a test telling them they were ok.
testing is just a way to determine infection levels and hot spots in certain areas, everyone, everyone will get this, there is no avoiding it so get that fantasy out of your mind.
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But wouldn't encouraging the proven negatives to maybe get out of the way for a time, if they had the meanst to do so, make a lot more sense?
no because it takes testing them every single day for 14-15 days to be sure they arent infected and 1 hour after they leave testing certified as "clean" they could contract it and then spread it everywhere because they had a test telling them they were ok.
testing is just a way to determine infection levels and hot spots in certain areas, everyone, everyone will get this, there is no avoiding it so get that fantasy out of your mind.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 9:12 am to keakar
Build a wall around New York and New Orleans.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 9:13 am to Dizz
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In places like New Orleans that type of testing isn’t useful right now.
Why not, though. Right now everyone is sort of quarintining. People actually are staying home for the most part, but not completely isolating. If people know they are free and clear, wouldn't it make sense to let them know and make the choice to go some place that is similarly for the next couple of weeks, rather than in the limbo mode of distancing but still risking being exposed?
If you know you've got it, you should be told not to leave and intensely self-isolate. A lot of people will be willing to do so, even if not everyone, and it would seem to me it would definitively peter out much quicker.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 9:13 am to Y.A. Tittle
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But wouldn't encouraging the proven negatives to maybe get out of the way for a time, if they had the meanst to do so, make a lot more sense?
Yes it absolutely would
Posted on 3/26/20 at 9:16 am to keakar
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no because it takes testing them every single day for 14-15 days to be sure they arent infected and 1 hour after they leave testing certified as "clean" they could contract it and then spread it everywhere because they had a test telling them they were ok.
Are you saying there can be up to a 14-15 day lag time for someone to be infected before they will actually test positive?
Posted on 3/26/20 at 9:23 am to PrivatePublic
Plenty of states have quarantine laws that could force an individual to stay isolated. It’s not the same for each State and only Realtor.com works on an individual basis.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 9:25 am to Y.A. Tittle
Of course it would, and it should have started in Jan/Feb. Unfortunately, our federal leadership was too busy screaming "hoax" to actually take the critical early steps we needed.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 9:33 am to Y.A. Tittle
Trace testing would've been possible if we would've been on the ball from the very start, that's what South Korea did and it's worked relatively well. We're waaaayyyy past that point tho
Posted on 3/26/20 at 9:36 am to mmmmmbeeer
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Of course it would, and it should have started in Jan/Feb.
Where were the US hot spots then?
Posted on 3/26/20 at 9:39 am to PrivatePublic
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States actually do have the power to quarantine an individual they know is infected.quote:
How? Throw them in jail? Elaborate because I think you're full of shite.
Yep, that's exactly what they can do. They're not doing it because you can't realistically jail an entire city, but the State of Louisiana can absolutely quarantine any person, parish, or city and arrest you for breaking it and throw your arse in jail for years if convicted.
Louisiana Revised Statutes 40:7
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§7. Communicable disease epidemic; procedure
A. If any parish or municipality or any portion thereof becomes infected with any disease to such an extent as to threaten the spread of the disease to the other portions of the state, the state health officer shall issue his proclamation declaring the facts and ordering the infected parish or municipality or the infected portion thereof quarantined. Further, the state health officer shall order all local health officers to quarantine against the locality; shall establish and promulgate the rules, regulations, terms, and conditions on which intercourse with the infected locality will be permitted; and shall issue to the other local sanitary authorities instructions as to the measures adopted in quarantining against persons, goods, or other property coming from the infected locality. These rules, regulations, terms, and conditions shall be observed and obeyed by all health authorities. Any other of the noninfected portions of the state may, upon approval of the state health officer, add to the regulations, rules, terms, and conditions already imposed by the state health officer.
B. The state health officer may prohibit the introduction into any infected portion of the state persons acclimated, unacclimated, or said to be immune, when, in his judgment, the introduction of those persons would increase the prevalence of the disease.
C. The state health officer shall render to the local health officers all the assistance which the conditions of his finances permit.
Acts 1976, No. 346, §1; Acts 2018, No. 206, §4.
Louisiana Revised Statutes 40:9
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§9. Arrests for violations
A. Any inspector, officer, or employee of the state health officer may arrest, without warrant, all persons violating any rule or regulation of the state health officer or any article or provision of the sanitary code, when the violation occurs within his sight, view, or personal knowledge. When the violation does not so occur, he may arrest only in execution of a warrant duly issued in accordance with the provisions of this Part or by a competent judicial authority.
B. All law enforcement officers shall aid in the apprehension of persons violating the provisions of the sanitary code or any rule or regulation of the state health office. These officers shall themselves arrest and apprehend all offenders committing such violations in their view or sight or within their personal knowledge.
Acts 1976, No. 346, §1; Acts 2018, No. 206, §4.
Louisiana Revised Statutes 40:6
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§6. Penalties for violation of state Sanitary Code
A. Except as provided otherwise in Subsection H of this Section, whoever violates any provision of the sanitary code, except those provisions dealing with isolation or quarantine of communicable disease, shall be fined not more than twenty-five dollars or be imprisoned for not more than ten days, or both, for the first offense. For the second offense, he shall be fined not less than twenty-five dollars nor more than fifty dollars or be imprisoned for not less than ten days nor more than thirty days, or both. For any subsequent offense, he shall be fined one hundred dollars or be imprisoned for not less than thirty days, or both.
B.(1) Whoever violates those provisions of the sanitary code dealing with the isolation or quarantine of communicable disease, or any person having such a communicable disease that may cause a severe health hazard to the community and who, after having been officially isolated or quarantined by any local health officer or by the state health officer or the duly authorized representative of either health officer, violates the provisions of the isolation or quarantine shall be fined not less than fifty dollars nor more than one hundred dollars or be imprisoned for not more than two years, or both.
This post was edited on 3/26/20 at 9:44 am
Posted on 3/26/20 at 10:25 am to Y.A. Tittle
First, there are not enough tests for the current load in the hospital. Some patients are just assumed as a rule-out and precautions like they have Covid because a positive test would not change their plan of care. Now, let's just add on the entire NOLA metro area for testing.
Second, you could have a false negative because the virus has not advanced enough to be detected. So it would say negative while still incubating. That's why they won't even discuss it unless you're symptomatic.
Third, imagine trying to account for every person and clustering all of these people into a handful of areas. You may not have it, but get it from someone that is positive waiting to be tested near you. One little slip not wiping the one-time use gown properly and simple brush of the hand has them shoving Covid 4 inches deep into your nose. You trust the people testing hundreds of people in a day to not make a simple error?
Second, you could have a false negative because the virus has not advanced enough to be detected. So it would say negative while still incubating. That's why they won't even discuss it unless you're symptomatic.
Third, imagine trying to account for every person and clustering all of these people into a handful of areas. You may not have it, but get it from someone that is positive waiting to be tested near you. One little slip not wiping the one-time use gown properly and simple brush of the hand has them shoving Covid 4 inches deep into your nose. You trust the people testing hundreds of people in a day to not make a simple error?
Posted on 3/26/20 at 10:29 am to Y.A. Tittle
Wide-scale testing of healthy asymptomatic people is a waste of resources. You could be potentially exposed as soon as you walk out of the test clinic. A negative test yesterday tells us nothing about your state of health today.
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