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re: Would you support School Choice in your state?

Posted on 4/17/25 at 6:32 pm to
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 4/17/25 at 6:32 pm to
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You already have free markets via where you decide to purchase your home and the corresponding zoned school districts. Don’t like the schools? Then move.

Vouchers get in the way of this


Does it? Or does it introduce competition among schools for taxpayer dollars?

Why do I need to pay taxes that support my school district, and then taxes again for tuition, instead of just paying once?
Posted by CDUBTX
TX
Member since Mar 2022
261 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 6:41 pm to
Eligible is the key word here. There will be an income level attached to it I suspect. So people who are on the fence won’t get a damn thing. Picking winners and losers.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21453 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 6:41 pm to
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What kind of change? If many schools still have shitty parents/kids, what’s going to change?


Right now (most) schools have to take kids regardless of economic class, work ethic, grades, parents, etc. This has lead to a focus on inflated graduation rates, inflated GPA's, and illiterate kids graduating high school because the admins need to justify their positions.

If you introduce school choice and vouchers, suddenly you can switch to a more competitive school (that may not even be in the school district) based on actual education and performance instead of forced into a poorly performing school, where the school gets your tax dollars regardless of how well they do.
Posted by Finch
Member since Jun 2015
3552 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 6:42 pm to
I live in Louisiana and I’m not poor so I support it
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
38701 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 6:45 pm to
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Why do I need to pay taxes that support my school district, and then taxes again for tuition, instead of just paying once?


You don’t.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
3591 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 6:47 pm to
No. We need to return to neighborhood schools. And those funds invested in schools so that all public schools have modern technology and are capable. I know it wont matter with some schools because bad parenting and no accountability is behind a lot of student failure, but then thats on them. They can keep their bad school and the others are good.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21453 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 6:50 pm to
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You don’t.


There's an easier solution than moving here.
Posted by AubieinNC2009
Mountain NC
Member since Dec 2018
6414 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 6:51 pm to
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It's not a private school if taxpayer money goes to fund its student's admission.



Most school choice is not to go to a private school but a better school.

School vouchers are not socialism you idiot. Its allow you to use the state money for you kid to put them in a better school.
Posted by Artificial Ignorance
Member since Feb 2025
522 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 6:57 pm to
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School vouchers are socialism.


What is more important - means vs end?

Means = the economic system through which a learning outcome is created for the economic system

Or

End = choice for learning that one believes yields best economic outcomes

Bonus: Lynyrd Skynyrd vs Neil Young?

Kidding
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
75338 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 6:59 pm to
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The tax dollars you're getting are ultimately yours (the tax payer).
Not even close. You aren't paying $130,000 multiplied by your number of kids in taxes to the public school system. It's a handout, it's socialism.

You can't afford the private product unless you get a subsidy, it's socialism. You can't afford that rental without a Section 8 voucher, it's socialism.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
83598 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 7:00 pm to
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School vouchers are not socialism you idiot. Its allow you to use the state money for you kid to put them in a better school.


the state money is to go to state provided schools, if you want something else, that’s on you
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
69253 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 7:16 pm to
No. Terrible idea.
Posted by Sterling Archer
Member since Aug 2012
7904 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 7:23 pm to
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There will be an income level attached to it I suspec


You would think that but at least in TX someone that makes $50k per year would get the same amount as TX resident Elon for each of his 50 kids
This post was edited on 4/17/25 at 7:34 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
71565 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 7:24 pm to
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the state money is to go to state provided schools


State money goes to wherever the people of the state want it to go.

That’s called democracy

The people of Texas voted to allocate education funds to parents.

If you have a problem with it, vote for candidates in future elections who campaign on ending the program

Public schools do not get to dictate where education funding goes
Posted by Cincinnati Tiigre
Cincinnati
Member since Nov 2015
1289 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 7:29 pm to
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
71565 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 7:35 pm to
This thread consists of

Group A: outright racists who don’t want low income high achieving blacks from NOLA to attend their Jefferson parish private school

Group B: public school teachers whose opinion on this topic can be outright dismissed as biased and conflicted (like asking a Coca Cola executive about Pepsi)

Group C: people who are disturbingly unconcerned about just how fricked up it is to condemn an intelligent black kid from Nola to be forced to attend a piece of shite public high school where instead of being able to sit down and study, he is forced to dodge bullets and bullies.

Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
10905 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 7:40 pm to
Group D--I'm for whatever costs me as a taxpayer, the least amount of money.
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 7:44 pm to
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Feels like a subsidy for the rich


It is exactly that, which is why so many wealthy Republicans like it.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21453 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 7:56 pm to
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Not even close. You aren't paying $130,000 multiplied by your number of kids in taxes to the public school system. It's a handout, it's socialism.

You can't afford the private product unless you get a subsidy, it's socialism. You can't afford that rental without a Section 8 voucher, it's socialism.


So if the schools aren't supported by tax dollars, where does the money come from?
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
4912 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 8:01 pm to
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I hope you understand that this is a private school's only job and purpose.

I taught for 20 years in private schools and am finishing up my 3rd in a public school - and I pretty much agree with you.

My public school has better teachers and more resources than any of my private schools - but we have some big-time turds walking the halls that counter all of that.
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