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re: Would you refuse to speak to your adult kids if they changed their religious beliefs?
Posted on 12/14/23 at 1:31 pm to Billy Blanks
Posted on 12/14/23 at 1:31 pm to Billy Blanks
No religious beliefs here so I don’t have rely on that crutch as an excuse to not talk to family.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 1:32 pm to PetermanFanClub
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Often repeated but false. World War II was started by those who lacked any traditional religion
Oh, the dumb shite you see on the OT.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 1:33 pm to Freauxzen
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Religion is dumb and causes all the wars.
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Sounds like they're better off without their parents in their lives. You said families cut them off though.
Oh goody, let's blame religion (and in this thread religious people) for everything. Literally.
That first quote isn't mine and has nothing to do with the second quote which is mine. I blamed it on shitty family, all around. However, if they're drawing a line simply because of a religious basis, then religion may be part of the problem. Any religion that is the reason you would disassociate with your children over, is a shite religion though. Most likely these are just shitty people.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 1:33 pm to Billy Blanks
No. I'm not a complete piece of sh*t and thankfully my parents are not pieces of sh*t either.
If your religion has you pushing family members away because they aren't the same religion then it's a sh*t religion
If your religion has you pushing family members away because they aren't the same religion then it's a sh*t religion
This post was edited on 12/14/23 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 12/14/23 at 1:35 pm to terd ferguson
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Only Islam... same rule I have for any Muslim frick. I hope you die a horrific death and get fricked in the arse by 72 BBC virgins.
Being fricked in the arse by 72 BBC Virgins is far easier to abide by than the fate that christians claim to believe anyone who has not accepted christ as their savior. Being fricked in the arse by 72 BBC Virgins is finite. Even if its every 1000 years it is far less time than an infinite eternity in a fire. I suspect you ask anyone who has ever had a truly serious burn if they would prefer a year of that or a couple of BBCs up the arse and they all of a sudden gonna like BBCs.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 1:35 pm to Billy Blanks
Its god who judges, not up to the parents.
Im an atheist and even I know that.
Im an atheist and even I know that.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 1:36 pm to Billy Blanks
No. My kids are Catholic and I didn't disown them.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 1:38 pm to AwgustaDawg
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That may well be the case for you and your demons. Some of us have none and are perfectly free and happy.
Ridiculous. Every humans fights the ego/personal desire. For you to have this mindset, you either have complete control over it or it has complete control over you.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 1:41 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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If my parents were religious and I decided not to be, I wouldn't "proudly" become an atheist and let everyone know about it.
That's disrespectful to your parents. Just drift away from the church and become a non-practicing Christian, in your parents eyes at least.
Telling your religious parents that you are an atheist reveals that there are likely other problems at play.
Atheists, agnostics and believers of all stripes are similar in that MANY of them think anyone else gives a damn what their world view is. They will tell anyone who will listen. They often do so when they want to shove their world view in the face of someone. Believers will claim they are required to do this and their teachings do just that...but their teachings also tell them to do all manner of heinous shite they can't bring themselves to do so one has to ask, why the one about shoving your world view down the throats of others??? There is an answer...it is to make the shover feel good about themselves with no regard as to the impact their shoving may have on another person. Feeling good about yourself at the expense of another is not ethical or moral...but most folks do it on a regular basis.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 1:47 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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You're supposed to love your kids unconditionally.
This reminds me of that Burr bit on never hitting a woman. "Oh really, there's never a reason to hit a woman? What if she's drowning your kids in the bathtub?"
Maybe it's just because i've come up in a family with a sociopathic member, but i'm not sure I agree with the absolute nature of "unconditionally."
Posted on 12/14/23 at 1:48 pm to Mushroom1968
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At least in my bubble, atheists tend to bring up religion way more than the Christians I know.
I do not think there is such as thing as a sidewalk atheist...but go to almost any place in the south and odds are you will find a few sidewalk preachers.
I have never walked into a public restroom anywhere in the world and found an Atheist flier in the stall. About 3 days a week I find religious pamphlets in the bathroom, stuck under the windsheild wiper of my truck, or handed to me while in public.
I have never had an atheist knock on my door and ask me If I ever though about giving atheism a try. I have had Beleivers do that in every country and every place I have ever lived.
I have never opened my mailbox and found an invite to a atheist meeting. I have never had a mailbox where I did not get such things from churches in the area.
I have never been to an event and saw a sign about the event being sponsored by an atheist group. Have almost never been to one where some church group wasn't pushing its wares through sponsorship.
This list goes on and on forever. The fact is most believers are taught that to be a good believer you gotta recruit. Atheists do not even have something called a good atheist...
Posted on 12/14/23 at 1:50 pm to AwgustaDawg
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Atheists, agnostics and believers of all stripes are similar in that MANY of them think anyone else gives a damn what their world view is. They will tell anyone who will listen.
Not me. The Christians around here often want to know where you go to church, etc. I prefer not to discuss religion at all so do not engage.
There's no point in a discussion because neither of us will change the other's mind. But we may get pissed off. Just keep it to yourself and remain friends.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 1:52 pm to AwgustaDawg
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depending on how often they had to run their faith up a flagpole so others could admire
And yet here you are on nearly every page of this thread running your atheism up a flagpole so others can see how intellectual you are.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 1:53 pm to Billy Blanks
Religous zealots are zealots...who knew? Kids make their own choices, it is what it is.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 1:54 pm to Billy Blanks
They will know we are Christian’s by our love.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 1:54 pm to AwgustaDawg
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Thankfully because there have never been any true christian believers, merely people who paid lip service to it while getting on with their lives.
Interesting that you've stated in this thread that Christians and anyone else who believes in a religion are arrogant because they believe they have the right answer and yet here you are, labeling billions of people with the broadest of brushes.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 1:55 pm to Mushroom1968
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I'll listen to people, as I said earlier about my atheists neighbor (great guy) he just constantly talks about it. I just shake my head and change the subject. Other people's opinions on religion or lack there of serve no interests to me. It should, as a Christian, but it doesn't. Outside of the occasional TD thread I involve myself in. I don't push my views on others either.
The, i need your prayers threads arent being started by atheists.
This thread probably wasnt started by an antheist. Most likely all the religion talk you have had today was started by a Christian.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 1:56 pm to Billy Blanks
Mormon? Wouldn't care.
Atheist? Possibly.
Just doesn't believe in God but is otherwise a good and moral person? Nope.
Completely off the rails evil and disrupting Mass and other violent shite? More than likely.
Atheist? Possibly.
Just doesn't believe in God but is otherwise a good and moral person? Nope.
Completely off the rails evil and disrupting Mass and other violent shite? More than likely.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 2:02 pm to Billy Blanks
I would caution you that just because your friends say they were disowned because of their religion doesn’t mean it’s true. They may genuinely attribute it to that but there could be other factors at play.
Not saying that’s the case but just saying people’s perceptions of relationships can be skewed by emotions.
Not saying that’s the case but just saying people’s perceptions of relationships can be skewed by emotions.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 2:02 pm to AwgustaDawg
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Free will does not exist...if it did you could choose to not have it.
I could go out in the woods and self-terminate and my free will is instantly gone.
Perhaps somewhat morbid, but It doesn’t get any more free than that.
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