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Posted on 10/25/18 at 9:35 am to real turf fan
I hope the crew is ok
Posted on 10/25/18 at 9:59 am to Bluefin
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are anoxic, containing virtually no oxygen. This prevents organic material from degrading, hence the nearly pristine condition of the ship.
I know it’s nit-picking but organic material is most certainly degraded in oxygen free atmospheres. Also wood doesn’t degrade when fully submerged in water, period. It can be completely saturated with oxygen but the wood will not rot.
Posted on 10/25/18 at 10:08 am to Mo Jeaux
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Black, not Baltic.
Whoa, dude. We no longer use the word "Black".
It's "African-American".
Posted on 10/25/18 at 10:17 am to Bluefin
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I hope the crew is ok
Prayers are of no use, as they died prior to baby Jesus, so they all went to hell or the upside down.
Posted on 10/25/18 at 10:19 am to real turf fan
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World's Oldest Shipwreck at the bottom of the Baltic Sea.
That we know of....
Posted on 10/25/18 at 10:19 am to Chucktown_Badger
They were actually able to develop a rendering of what they believed the captain looked like based on information recovered from the mission.


Posted on 10/25/18 at 11:01 am to Marciano1
going to bounce this out there. i've always been under the impression that any big water east of the strait of Gibraltar, west of the middle east, north of Africa, and south of Europe was "the Mediterranean". I'm on google earth looking at the black sea and followed it down through turkey to the med. I now see that there are several other "seas" listed:
Alboran (between Spain and Africa)
Balearic (south of Barcelona and north of Ibiza)
Tyrrhenian (west of Italy, east of Sardinia/Corsica)
Adriatic (between Italy and Serbia)
Aegean (between Greece and turkey)
Ionian (between Greece and Italy)
Leaving the Mediterranean north of Africa from the middle east to Tunisia and south of Italy, Greece, and turkey)
Not sure why i posted this, just thought it was interesting.
Alboran (between Spain and Africa)
Balearic (south of Barcelona and north of Ibiza)
Tyrrhenian (west of Italy, east of Sardinia/Corsica)
Adriatic (between Italy and Serbia)
Aegean (between Greece and turkey)
Ionian (between Greece and Italy)
Leaving the Mediterranean north of Africa from the middle east to Tunisia and south of Italy, Greece, and turkey)
Not sure why i posted this, just thought it was interesting.
Posted on 10/25/18 at 11:03 am to Coon
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i've always been under the impression that any big water east of the strait of Gibraltar, west of the middle east, north of Africa, and south of Europe was "the Mediterranean". I'm on google earth looking at the black sea and followed it down through turkey to the med. I now see that there are several other "seas" listed:
Someone failed 7th grade Geography
Posted on 10/25/18 at 11:10 am to rowbear1922
I mean, not really.. I finished second in our school's geography bee in 6th grade.
But looking at it, the french riviera is considered "on the Mediterranean" when in actuality, it's nowhere near the med.
I knew other seas existed but i didn't know that many (I had never heard of the Balearic or Alboran)
But looking at it, the french riviera is considered "on the Mediterranean" when in actuality, it's nowhere near the med.
I knew other seas existed but i didn't know that many (I had never heard of the Balearic or Alboran)
Posted on 10/25/18 at 11:11 am to Coon
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I finished second in our school's geography bee in 6th grade.
it still grinds your guts today that I beat you doesn't it?
Posted on 10/25/18 at 11:14 am to 777Tiger
Hell yes it does! i was in 6th grade and it was 5th, 6th, and 7th. i don't remember the question i lost on but i do remember it was one i should have known! Maybe something with the moon phases.
i won a blow up globe (like a beach ball) for coming out second.
i won a blow up globe (like a beach ball) for coming out second.
Posted on 10/25/18 at 11:16 am to Coon
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I knew other seas existed but i didn't know that many (I had never heard of the Balearic or Alboran)
They all get lumped into/considered by most around here as the Mediterranean sea, but yes it is broken up into many parts.
Posted on 10/25/18 at 11:22 am to rowbear1922
That's my point. I thought it officially stretched from Gibraltar to Israel and had a few seas around the Italian and greek peninsulas.
This post was edited on 10/25/18 at 11:24 am
Posted on 10/25/18 at 11:26 am to Coon
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That's my point. I thought it officially stretched from Gibraltar to Israel and had a few seas around the Italian and green peninsulas
I do believe it's all encompassing but is broken down due to before technology it would be pretty hard to tell someone to just sail across the Med from say Alexandria in Egypt to just say Venice without a little better directions.
Posted on 10/25/18 at 11:29 am to rowbear1922
So really, no part of mainland Italy or Greece touch the Mediterranean.
I love maps! I could spend days looking at them.
I love maps! I could spend days looking at them.
Posted on 10/25/18 at 11:32 am to rowbear1922
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I do believe it's all encompassing but is broken down due to before technology it would be pretty hard to tell someone to just sail across the Med from say Alexandria in Egypt to just say Venice without a little better directions
Right. Today people don’t go in their fishing boat more than a mile without gps technology.
Imagine just getting on a ship and heading out to sea kind of aiming for another city. That’s crazy when you think about it but we did it like it was nothing.
Posted on 10/25/18 at 11:36 am to Coon
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Right. Today people don’t go in their fishing boat more than a mile without gps technology.
Imagine just getting on a ship and heading out to sea kind of aiming for another city. That’s crazy when you think about it but we did it like it was nothing.
More interesting to be is how they used astronomy to navigate at night. We would ALL be fricked a solar flare kills all technology.
Posted on 10/25/18 at 1:18 pm to rowbear1922
Another thing is communications. There's a scene in Master and Commander when they're trading with natives/expats off the coast of Brazil and they give them sacks of mail to send back in the hopes that at some point that might get back to their home. Today, on a ship pretty much anywhere in the world, you can click a button on your phone and be face to face with someone back home (or wherever).
And stuff like that (the M&C example) is RECENT all things considered. We're less than 150-200 years removed from pretty much no technology other than a lens at the end of a tube and a sextant (and that's really only recent tech in itself). When this boat sank, they were just looking at stars and land i guess.
And stuff like that (the M&C example) is RECENT all things considered. We're less than 150-200 years removed from pretty much no technology other than a lens at the end of a tube and a sextant (and that's really only recent tech in itself). When this boat sank, they were just looking at stars and land i guess.
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