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re: Working for yourself

Posted on 12/31/25 at 9:55 am to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36839 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 9:55 am to
quote:


Travel ball going well?


do you think people are doing travel ball in late dec and jan?
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
9833 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 9:59 am to
I just meant in general.

No need for the attitude. Simple question.
Posted by OU812ME2
Earth
Member since Jun 2021
1341 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 9:59 am to
Good luck finding insurance when you work for yourself. My wife has a good job with platinum insurance so we're covered. But when she was doing the stay at home thing to raise the kids, it was a nightmare trying to find decent insurance that actually covered anything at any pay rate. And all those prices were over $1000/mth for nothing.

If I could do it over, I'd go work for a big company and put in maximum 401k and enjoy the ride. If you think your boss is an A-hole you can't work for, wait until you meet your customers.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
73026 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 10:03 am to
quote:

33
90k
Me and my wife.

Edit - I’m 33 not 32. Forgot.
Probably shouldn’t be one of these-

Air Traffic Controller
Surgical Sponge Counter
Actuarial

PS: Pics of wife, for “context”
TIA
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36839 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 10:09 am to
quote:

I just meant in general.

No need for the attitude. Simple question.


pretty great.

and man i was being an arse earlier, at least not at first...just simply telling you how you were coming across
Posted by Dubosed
Gulf Breeze
Member since Nov 2012
7576 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 10:23 am to
Just being honest you sound like you have a bad attitude. That ain't gonna cut it running your own show.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11206 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 10:27 am to
Working for yourself requires a lot of discipline and ability to take risks that most are unwilling to take. If you're an idea type personality that jumps around every few years, you may have trouble translating that into a successful business venture.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37390 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:11 am to
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want my expert opinion? you sound like a god damn pussy who gets pissed off at the drop of a hat and will fricking fail because he doesnt understand that even in things like accounting....its a service to other people so the ability to sell is your #1 asset and frankly....your personality and outlook suck for that.


This is more correct than incorrect.

Odysseus isn’t going to like to hear this, but buddy, you’ve got no chance going out on your own in accounting right now. One, you have like 2 or 3 years experience, you don’t know anything about actually managing the business. I can promise you, before you get into management, there’s a ton of shite you just aren’t privy to that is a pain in the arse.

Secondly, and most importantly, where are you going to get your clients from? I assume you are little to none forward facing right now, and who would hire someone to run their engagement with 3 years experience anyway?

And public accounting is a sales business at the end of the day. You think you’re fed up with being managed by your manager internally? Wait until the buck stops with you with client shite. From “I don’t like taxes so why do I have to pay this” and having to fire that client to “why can you just do this and why will it take you more than a couple of hours which is all I want to pay,” you’re going to be dealing with all sorts of bullshite all the time.

Being a staff in public accounting can suck, and maybe you’re just bitching about that, but if you’re serious, you need to look yourself in the mirror. It really is mo money mo problems
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36839 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

And public accounting is a sales business at the end of the day.


this

forget all the other stuff....this


and OP...do you have your CPA? dont you have to before going on your own?
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22821 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:36 pm to
It’s been 2.5 years for me, and felt the way you did pretty much since my career began.

It’s still work. I’m not always happy with it, and don’t feel truly liberated because of client expectations, but I cannot imagine ever working for another boss. The flexibility to be productive when I feel most productive or up against a deadline is exactly what I needed.

With kids especially, the level of anxiety to meet family obligations and to also sit at a desk for 8+ hours before my work product is ever considered is debilitating. Overall I’m not good at being a butt in seat guy.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
65613 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:47 pm to
I've been in the workforce for over 20 years across vastly different industries and the universal truth is that every place has some bullshite that you don't want to deal with. You just have to find the place with the least bullshite that pays you consistently every two weeks and gets you closer to retirement. There's something to be said for peace of mind.

I don't think striking out on your own and working 80 hour weeks to get a business off the ground is a good strategy unless you REALLY love what you're doing and you're a top-tier subject matter expert. Like others have said, can you afford to not pull a salary for a year? That's sometimes what it takes.
Posted by WylieTiger
Member since Nov 2006
14463 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:51 pm to
Healthcare.gov is asshoe!
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
9833 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 3:41 pm to
I appreciate this.

That being said, I’m gonna do it anyway.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
45208 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 3:42 pm to
Aren't you the lazy frick that refuses to take your trash our or do the dishes when you stay at an airbnb? McDonald's would be good for you
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
9833 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 3:43 pm to
Guilty as charged frickhead
Posted by Cracking
Northshore
Member since Aug 2006
3518 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 4:57 pm to
quote:

Lately when I do a good job, my stomach drops and I feel like I'd be better suited doing the same good job for myself.



I own a business and employ/contract people like you. Grass is always greener, or "I'm not doing that task for what I'm being paid (or not being paid)," and, worst of all, "that's not my job" type person. people think that small to mid-sized business owners are all making multiple millions or even a million/year... I thought my boss was before I became her competition. You get paid last after all the expenses that you didn't foresee as an employee. And you do things for clients that have NO real ROI other than keeping the clients happy.

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I get fed up easily. Even when I do a good job, there's a sense of meaningless that creeps in.


Your perspective in this isn't a good one. If you're sick of doing remedial tasks that feel like they're a waste of time or meaningless, get ready for being a business owner when you deal in bull shite ALL DAY LONG! You can't just turn your back on clients and business because they're a pain in the arse.

quote:

It seems I can't manage to work for others.


This is all you do when you own a business!

quote:

I want autonomy to set up my own systems and do things my way.


This is a real thing and a good perspective. Depending on your industry and size of your business, you will absorb so much pressure from payroll to clients wanting to feel like their time is more important than your time, that you need a truly solid "why" for your endeavor. If you don't have a rock solid reason beyond I feel like wasting time at work for myself is better than someone else, you will hate owning a business because all you do is waste time on satisfying client's ridiculousness. People in remedial jobs at your client's business want to feel important, so they invent ways to complicate your work so they have a way to look down on you and tell your what to do so they feel a sense of control over you, but you just have to deal with it.

If you view your business as one that makes a real difference in people's lives and the community, and you feel that you will do a better job of it than the competition, then go for it, but word of warning - It's more work than you can imagine because you're virtually never off the clock, and the level of bull shite rises to epic proportions.
Posted by Jimmyboy
Member since May 2025
2083 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 5:19 pm to
Search the newspaper or another ad service for small businesses for sale. My friend turned me on to an ice cream shop owner who wants to retire and makes ok money. 70k take home. You work for yourself and it’s not back breaking. Just an example here but many more options out there
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
39246 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 6:14 pm to
When you own a business, the business owns you.
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