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re: "Working Class" voters desire the "older, more generous" safety net: Forbes article
Posted on 4/1/17 at 9:15 am to StrongSafety
Posted on 4/1/17 at 9:15 am to StrongSafety
All of the benefits you mentioned, all the tax breaks you mentioned, and the way the system works is right there for everybody. Believe that.
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Posted on 4/1/17 at 9:28 am to StrongSafety
God damn people are ridiculous. If it's so fricking bad here, go elsewhere.
I'm sure that there's some thriving country in Africa that the black man is put on a pedestal... Or maybe not, since those types of countries seem to be very prone to corruption.
I'm sure that there's some thriving country in Africa that the black man is put on a pedestal... Or maybe not, since those types of countries seem to be very prone to corruption.
Posted on 4/1/17 at 9:39 am to cubsfan5150
Nah bitching and playing the race card is easier for losers to do.
The simple answer is the American dream is alive and well for anyone. Get an education or lean a skill. Work hard and not be an idiot with how you spend your income. Invest for the future. Stop blaming others for your problems.
It seems to work well like that for the black people I work with and the ones who are in my social circle
The simple answer is the American dream is alive and well for anyone. Get an education or lean a skill. Work hard and not be an idiot with how you spend your income. Invest for the future. Stop blaming others for your problems.
It seems to work well like that for the black people I work with and the ones who are in my social circle
Posted on 4/1/17 at 9:40 am to cubsfan5150
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God damn people are ridiculous. If it's so fricking bad here, go elsewhere
Nope staying here, it's just as much as their country as anyone else's.
It's not about a pedestal, it's about equality and justice as the laws suggest
Posted on 4/1/17 at 9:41 am to notiger1997
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It seems to work well like that for the black people I work with and the ones who are in my social circle
Bet it does but I'd even bet they don't even share their truest sentiments with you.
Posted on 4/1/17 at 9:43 am to StrongSafety
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When I buy a house for my family, or a vacation home, the interest I pay on the mortgage is deductible up to a million dollars of debt. That costs the treasury $70 billion a year, about what we spend to fund the food stamp program. My private retirement savings are also tax deductible, diverting another $75 billion from government revenues. Other tax preferences carve out special treatment for child care expenses, college savings, commuter costs (your suburban tax credit), local taxes, and other exemptions.
Marxism warps the entire discussion. Direct "handouts" are now either morally equivalent to or even superior to folks keeping more of their own money.
This post was edited on 4/1/17 at 9:44 am
Posted on 4/1/17 at 9:44 am to StrongSafety
What's their true sentiment?
frick whitey?
frick whitey?
Posted on 4/1/17 at 9:44 am to StrongSafety
Yep.
All the "white devil's" fault
All the "white devil's" fault
Posted on 4/1/17 at 9:46 am to baseballmind1212
It must be exhausting being a victim 24/7/365.
What a shitty way to go through life.
What a shitty way to go through life.
Posted on 4/1/17 at 9:46 am to StrongSafety
Love me some white socialism. 350k house...great benefits...all I have to do is wake up every morning and go to work and bust my arse and they just give you money and insurance! Damndest thing
This post was edited on 4/1/17 at 9:47 am
Posted on 4/1/17 at 9:47 am to StrongSafety
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Nope staying here, it's just as much as their country as anyone else's.
If you can take off the victim lens for a moment, maybe you can see the point behind the comment.
It's not saying people who disagree shouldn't be here.
It's saying that there are many places where your viewpoint is shared and implemented. Seems more practical to go there.
Otherwise it's like taking a home, gutting and remodeling it to suit your desires, fighting with the HOA the entire time to get permission for the changes, vs simply moving a few streets down in a home that almost perfectly matches your desires.
Posted on 4/1/17 at 9:47 am to StrongSafety
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Could you afford the full cost of everything if it wasn't subsidized for you?
That by definition is a handout
lol. you again
Could I afford the taxes this guy suggests I pay on the benefit of insurance? Yes. The base cost of the benefit itself though is a competitive transaction from my employer to me. If they weren't offering that, they'd have to offer an equivalent incremental to my base. Equilibrium and all that.
Of course, your shitty logic is that we should ignore the fact that I'm still a net contributor, by a long shot, to the tax base. In your mind, if I'm taxed at 99% but given back some of that, it's a handout. You never address the moral breakdown of that money having been taken from me in the first place, something your political kind has a harder time relating to because you stand up for people who contribute nil and get some back from me, and then logically lump me in as a welfare recipient because I got very modest breaks on the already ridiculous amount I paid.
This post was edited on 4/1/17 at 9:49 am
Posted on 4/1/17 at 9:47 am to StrongSafety
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Could you afford the full cost of everything if it wasn't subsidized for you?
That by definition is a handout
I paid cash for my home, my land, and I am saving my already taxed income to build a newer home.
In short, go frick yourself in your entitled arse.
This post was edited on 4/1/17 at 9:54 am
Posted on 4/1/17 at 9:48 am to StrongSafety
I agree. Revolutionary Communism, under the guise of American Socialism is the future ! In fact, I'm getting in a bread line early and stockpiling toilet paper so that I am eventually more equal than my neighbors.
Posted on 4/1/17 at 9:48 am to StrongSafety
What would those be?
Deep down they want to steal your shite and kill each other?
Deep down they want to steal your shite and kill each other?
Posted on 4/1/17 at 9:50 am to X123F45
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Could you afford the full cost of everything if it wasn't subsidized for you
Would fricking love to not have to participate in social security and invest that money in myself that's for damn sure
Posted on 4/1/17 at 9:52 am to Swoopin
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Of course, your shitty logic is that we should ignore the fact that I'm still a net contributor, by a long shot, to the tax base. In your mind, if I'm taxed at 99% but given back some of that, it's a handout. You never address the moral breakdown of that money having been taken from me in the first place, something your political kind has a harder time relating to because you stand up for people who contribute nil and get some back from me, and then logically lump me in as a welfare recipient because I got very modest breaks on the already ridiculous amount I paid.
Bingo.
I made $28K in bonuses last year that they tax the fck out of. Between the taxes I pay on those bonuses and my salary, I'm sure lots of strong safety types are living well off of handouts.
Posted on 4/1/17 at 9:56 am to StrongSafety
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Who pays for it then?
Pays for what?
Me keeping my own money is not the government giving me money, welfare, or whatever you want to call it.
The notion that me keeping more of my own money that I earned is some sort of government handout or welfare is absurd.
Posted on 4/1/17 at 9:59 am to StrongSafety
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Who pays for it then?
Capitalism is based on the notion that folks' property is their own - there isn't this Socialist/Marxist presumption that everything in existence is owned by or due the state and anything the state (the liberal elite, in other words) allows you to keep is a gift.
America is simply not constructed on that philosophy. So, try again, baw.
Posted on 4/1/17 at 10:00 am to StrongSafety
Working class white people tend to be hypocrites. Nothing new here.
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