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re: Woman reportedly JUMPED overboard from Carnival cruise ship....
Posted on 9/7/16 at 12:34 pm to tgrbaitn08
Posted on 9/7/16 at 12:34 pm to tgrbaitn08
Deflection.
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Posted on 9/7/16 at 12:35 pm to tgrbaitn08
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Neither should Disney but they will still pay out the arse for what happened to that little boy and I bet it never happens again
You know what Disney is installing? A fence with a rail.
You know what Carnival already has?
Posted on 9/7/16 at 12:36 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
and I bet no one ever loses their head going down a water slide again either.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 12:36 pm to tgrbaitn08
Still haven't seen your reasoning why liability falls on the cruise ship...
Posted on 9/7/16 at 12:39 pm to J Murdah
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Drunk and stupid. Carnival can't prevent that.
Takes a lot of effort to fall overboard from a cruise ship.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 12:40 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
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ships can do more to prevent these incidents, including the installation of motion sensors and thermal detection systems that would set off alarms when someone goes overboard.
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Michael McGarry, senior vice president of public affairs for the Cruise Line Industry Association, says man-overboard incidents are rare on cruises that are operated by the major lines.
“People don’t just fall off a cruise ship,” he says. “In every case where the cause was established following a careful investigation by the authorities, it was found to be the result of an intentional or reckless act.”
Miami-based maritime attorney Jim Walker, an industry watchdog, says man-overboard incidents are not simple cases of “falling” or getting swept off a deck by the wind.
“In my assessment,” he said, “alcohol is involved in about 40 percent of the cases. Ten percent are suicides. The remaining 50 percent are mysteries with a high percentage of these cases involving foul play. The most likely scenario we have seen are men throwing women overboard.”
Posted on 9/7/16 at 12:41 pm to tgrbaitn08
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Carnival Ecstasy
Same ship that caught fire in 1998. That ship is too damn old.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 12:43 pm to tgrbaitn08
At least you're talking about this case now.
Other than putting up nets below each deck, what can the cruise ship do?
quote:These recovery methods would have done nothing in this case. She was seen falling overboard and I assume it was immediately reported to the ship's captain.
ships can do more to prevent these incidents, including the installation of motion sensors and thermal detection systems that would set off alarms when someone goes overboard
Other than putting up nets below each deck, what can the cruise ship do?
This post was edited on 9/7/16 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 9/7/16 at 12:48 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
Well the cruise lines are making a killing selling alcohol to passengers so it's in their best interest to do as much as they can to protect the same people from falling off the ship.
Have you ever heard of a passenger ever being denied alcohol on a cruise?
Have you ever heard of a passenger ever being denied alcohol on a cruise?
Posted on 9/7/16 at 12:52 pm to tgrbaitn08
quote:Honestly, like what?
Well the cruise lines are making a killing selling alcohol to passengers so it's in their best interest to do as much as they can to protect the same people from falling off the ship.
At some point, the customer is responsible for his own safety. The company can only do so much.
quote:No. Are you implying that it doesn't happen?
Have you ever heard of a passenger ever being denied alcohol on a cruise?
Posted on 9/7/16 at 12:57 pm to tgrbaitn08
This is why I use Holland America.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 12:59 pm to Pettifogger
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Carnival's ability to stay in business is a mystery
Drink prices
Posted on 9/7/16 at 1:01 pm to TheFonz
Carnival means trailer trash in Haitan.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 1:06 pm to UGATiger26
quote:It'd be more like a sentence from a judge for me.
Well, millions upon millions of people have managed to go on a Carnival cruise without falling off the boat.
Two things you can bank on:
#1: If I ever again set foot on the island of Jamaica, there's a kidnapping in progress. Please help me.
#2: If you ever find me on a Carnival cruise, I have a brain-eating disease in it's late stage.
Get out of my way, it might be contagious.
I'm surprised more folks don't go overboard off those floating trailer parks more often.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 1:14 pm to tgrbaitn08
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Neither should Disney but they will still pay out the arse for what happened to that little boy and I bet it never happens again
Last I read, the family was not pursuing any monetary damages or suing in any way. I found that shocking because I think they have a legitimate case but maybe they just want to move on.
Back to Carnival, they have signs everywhere saying to stay off of the railing and they have a muster drill at the beginning of every cruise where they go over rules, including staying off the railings. They are covered when it comes to negligence on their part.
This post was edited on 9/7/16 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 9/7/16 at 1:18 pm to tgrbaitn08
quote:
ships can do more to prevent these incidents
quote:Doesn't sound like the incident is being prevented.
including the installation of motion sensors and thermal detection systems that would set off alarms when someone goes overboard.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 1:20 pm to tgrbaitn08
She didn't fall, she jumped.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 1:25 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
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Honestly, like what?
Cutting a lightweight drinker off from booze after her 12th straight hour of drinking
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At some point, the customer is responsible for his own safety. The company can only do so much.
Cant a bar be liable for over severing a customer if they leave said bar and get into an accident and kill someone? Correct me if im wrong
quote:
No. Are you implying that it doesn't happen?
Im saying I've never heard of it happening, but no I dont think it happens
Posted on 9/7/16 at 1:31 pm to tgrbaitn08
quote:The only thing you can think of is having the cruise ship monitor its patrons alcohol intake? You're essentially saying cruise ships shouldn't let their passengers get drunk because some dumbass might kill themselves acting like a dumbass.
Cutting a lightweight drinker off from booze after her 12th straight hour of drinking
quote:Not in LA.
Cant a bar be liable for over severing a customer if they leave said bar and get into an accident and kill someone? Correct me if im wrong
quote:I would be willing to bet a lot of money that someone has been cut off on a cruise ship.
Im saying I've never heard of it happening, but no I dont think it happens
This post was edited on 9/7/16 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 9/7/16 at 1:33 pm to tgrbaitn08
No one just 'falls' off of a cruise ship. One of 3 things happens
1) They are drunk and either horsing around on the railing or jumping from the railing to the lifeboats for fun
2) The are committing suicide
3) They are thrown over the railing in an act or murder
1) They are drunk and either horsing around on the railing or jumping from the railing to the lifeboats for fun
2) The are committing suicide
3) They are thrown over the railing in an act or murder
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