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re: Woman in Minnesota tried ramming ICE Officer gets unalived. NSFW
Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:27 pm to TheEnglishman
Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:27 pm to TheEnglishman
These two things cannot both be true
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Did the lady deserve to die? it doesn't seem so
- Agreed.
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Did the officer feel threatened? I would have
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Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:27 pm to Earnest_P
Tough to tell but looks like she may have actually hit him from this angle.
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Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:27 pm to ell_13
quote:Shooting her in the head sure didn’t stop her from accelerating. Just watched the other angle. Looks like he was out of the way.
She was still in front of him when he shoots.
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Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:28 pm to HogBalls
I can’t make anything out on this video to make a conclusion of any kind
Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:28 pm to sicboy
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What danger was she posing?
stand in front of my car and I'll show you
Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:28 pm to au4you
It stopped her from being a threat to anyone else. Which is part of the justification for lethal force.
Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:29 pm to holdmuh keystonelite
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Crowds have doubled just In the last hour as this has got out. At least it's cold so that will keep a lot inside.
Legit freaking insane that there are white Minnesotans protesting against ICE at this point, with all of this fraud information coming out. There simply is no reasoning with these nuts.
Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:29 pm to Harry Caray
From the second angle, it looks like the driver was trying to flee and not necessarily trying to hit the agent on the driver’s side of the car. But it does look like the driver hit or rolled over the agent’s foot. Can’t clearly tell if orders are being given, but it sure seems like the driver is fleeing from agents, which obviously implies they’re giving orders that don’t involve fleeing.
There’s maybe a hypertechnical argument that the shooting wasn’t necessary, but it obviously doesn’t account for the reality that the agents are dealing with someone disobeying orders who rolls over an agent’s foot. Certainly seems justified to me based on what they knew at the time.
There’s maybe a hypertechnical argument that the shooting wasn’t necessary, but it obviously doesn’t account for the reality that the agents are dealing with someone disobeying orders who rolls over an agent’s foot. Certainly seems justified to me based on what they knew at the time.
Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:29 pm to au4you
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Well the agent got out of the way pretty easily. No reason to shoot at that point.
Nah brah. In this day in age, send the message to future Karens that is not acceptable.
Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:30 pm to TheEnglishman
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think he was tired of her shite and when she hit the gas with him in the way, he ended the situation. I am sure that he did feel threatened. Cops are in threatening situations every day and most are more deadly than this libtard trying to get away from a stop.
From what I could tell, he was about at the driver side headlight when she stomped the gas and he was really close to being run over. That's not normal every day threatening. You are downplaying the danger that officer was in for that split second. It's not much different than being shot at and narrowly missed, which definitely does not happen to an officer every day.
Now you could maybe argue it was stupid to be in that position in the first place, but he did need to try to detain her somehow and she was clearly a risk to go. As I said earlier, the crowds and the officer's body language indicated there was some shite with her leading up to this.
Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:30 pm to HogBalls
One less idiot! FAFO
Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:30 pm to HogBalls
So what is the mob's defense going to be for the dead woman?
I don't want to hear: She got scared and panicked!
She is specifically there to block/hinder ICE agents. They were addressing her verbally when she decided to back up a bit and surge forward. Her defenders can't act like she thought it was a group of masked thieves with no license to stop her.
I don't want to hear: She got scared and panicked!
She is specifically there to block/hinder ICE agents. They were addressing her verbally when she decided to back up a bit and surge forward. Her defenders can't act like she thought it was a group of masked thieves with no license to stop her.
Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:30 pm to Earnest_P
Suicidal empathy is the new term for it. People would rather look like they care even if it were detrimental to your own livelihood.
Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:30 pm to au4you
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Well the agent got out of the way pretty easily. No reason to shoot at that point.
I don't expect a reasonable conversation with the left on this.
But if we could have one, we might discuss that it's absurd to expect law enforcement being spit on and screamed at and threatened not to make mistakes, and that it would be wise for the whack jobs not to put guys with guns in those positions constantly. It's also wise for the whack jobs not to encourage their own to block traffic and drive cars erratically or otherwise threaten/push/etc. said cops.
That assumes this was a mistake, which it technically probably wasn't. But nonetheless, it's an untenable situation. You ask guys making 80k a year to do it right 100% of the time while they're constantly surrounded by people who appear as though they may attack them at any point, and accompany that with rhetoric about how they're Hitler and deserve to die.
Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:32 pm to SUB
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These two things cannot both be true
Sure they can. If the driver is fleeing and not trying to hurt anyone then they don’t deserve to die. But if the officers, with limited information and split seconds to react, can’t tell the difference between attempting to flee and attempting to run them over, then the shooting is justified.
Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:32 pm to OKBoomerSooner
quote:The cop at the window isn’t the one who shot. Also, cops can’t judge intent only actions.
From the second angle, it looks like the driver was trying to flee and not necessarily trying to hit the agent on the driver’s side of the car. But it does look like the driver hit or rolled over the agent’s foot. Can’t clearly tell if orders are being given, but it sure seems like the driver is fleeing from agents, which obviously implies they’re giving orders that don’t involve fleeing. There’s maybe a hypertechnical argument that the shooting wasn’t necessary, but it obviously doesn’t account for the reality that the agents are dealing with someone disobeying orders who rolls over an agent’s foot. Certainly seems justified to me based on what they knew at the time.
Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:33 pm to Pettifogger
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But if we could have one, we might discuss that it's absurd to expect law enforcement being spit on and screamed at and threatened not to make mistakes, and that it would be wise for the whack jobs not to put guys with guns in those positions constantly. It's also wise for the whack jobs not to encourage their own to block traffic and drive cars erratically or otherwise threaten/push/etc. said cops.
That assumes this was a mistake, which it technically probably wasn't. But nonetheless, it's an untenable situation. You ask guys making 80k a year to do it right 100% of the time while they're constantly surrounded by people who appear as though they may attack them at any point, and accompany that with rhetoric about how they're Hitler and deserve to die.
These are very good logical and reasonable points but trying to introduce logic and reason to the left is like trying to introduce sunlight to a vampire
Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:34 pm to OKBoomerSooner
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Sure they can. If the driver is fleeing and not trying to hurt anyone then they don’t deserve to die. But if the officers, with limited information and split seconds to react, can’t tell the difference between attempting to flee and attempting to run them over, then the shooting is justified.
Yeah. I mean the woman *probably* wasn't trying to kill him. She was probably being reckless around him, trying to evade, or just completely frazzled because she had no business putting herself in that situation.
So in that sense, yes, her death is unfortunate and "unearned" in a moral sense. It was probably earned in a Darwin Award sense, though.
Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:34 pm to lsuwhodat78
quote:For being able to think critically?
Seek help!
If her goal was killing an agent, why did she reverse first?
Posted on 1/7/26 at 1:35 pm to Harry Caray
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If her goal was killing an agent, why did she reverse first?
Go watch the video again. She tried to run over him.
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