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re: WNBA Could Go Into A Lockout With Players Seeking More Money Despite League Losing $40 Mil

Posted on 10/22/24 at 7:48 pm to
Posted by BigD43
Member since Jun 2016
1163 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 7:48 pm to
How is the league performing this poorly.

I knew this league certainly had its problems but I didn't think they'd lose $40 million, in the year their Michael Jordan just finished her rookie season.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
36649 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 7:52 pm to
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What's the source for this? The WNBA lost $40 million.
Articles from 10 years ago show the profit the teams are making. The $40 million loss is at the league level who incur costs for the charter flights, refs, hotels, etc unlike the NBA where teams take on a lot of the costs. But really that is only just under $4 million per team.

It really shows the jump in overall revenues as the commercial flights were replaced with charter flights and yet losses decreased $10 million. Add an extra $120 million in tv revenue and that could be an extra $10 million per team per year. Current salary caps are at $1.4 million per team.
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Faulkner County
Member since Jun 2009
14872 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 7:54 pm to
quote:

WNBA Could Go Into A Lockout
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21472 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 8:07 pm to
This is in no small part due to Caitlin Clark bringing in tons of new fans .
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
117343 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 9:14 pm to
Are you a wnba fan?
Posted by threedog79
Member since Sep 2013
3343 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 9:23 pm to
Yes. Y’all shems lockout. Do it. Dozens will be upset.
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
11325 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 9:30 pm to
Bye bitches
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
24655 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 9:42 pm to
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The $40 million loss is at the league level who incur costs for the charter flights, refs, hotels, etc unlike the NBA where teams take on a lot of the costs. But really that is only just under $4 million per team.


the WNBA is single entity. they don’t divide league “costs” by team. the NBA strokes them a single check. you know this, right?
Posted by WhoDatNC
NC
Member since Dec 2013
13496 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 9:43 pm to
Who cares. I find womens college hoops way more entertaining anyway.
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
24655 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 9:45 pm to
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The wnba league lost 40 million because they owe 40% of revenue to the nba and 20% to outside investors. If the league didn't owe 60% of the money they brought in they would've made profit this year. That's the cost of relying on others to bankroll your startup/expansions


and most startups are expected to return profit at least once in a quarter century. at that point it becomes classified as charity
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
44283 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 9:50 pm to
Please do it - lockout for ever

Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
10651 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 9:54 pm to
Let them strike and then shut it down. No one really wants to follow that league unless they are watching CClark.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
13537 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 10:09 pm to
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and most startups are expected to return profit at least once in a quarter century

But this isn't most startups, it's a "pro" sports league.

The owners own the arenas, I doubt they give a shite if the "league" makes money as long as they do and it gives em something to put in their arena on a Tuesday night
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
24655 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 10:41 pm to
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But this isn't most startups, it's a "pro" sports league.


you didn’t allude to that in the slightest with your original post.

quote:

The owners own the arenas, I doubt they give a shite if the "league" makes money as long as they do and it gives em something to put in their arena on a Tuesday night


it costs the owners more to have 1200 people show up for a tuesday night game than it does to have the venue sitting vacant


this isn’t a business venture. the NBA was kowtowed into starting a women’s charity. and during the first glimmer of hope for said league, nearly all of the current and former players, and friendly media, decided to attack the main attraction for her skin color

you couldn’t write a better script
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
32529 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 10:57 pm to
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Imagine the shitshow that would be replacement WNBA players

On or off the court?

I could see some hood rat shite happening off the court the way things went down with Caitlin Clark.
Posted by MrFahrenheitDontLie
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
270 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 1:57 pm to
This is interesting. Yes I know the league loses money, but the pay is actually legitimately low. What if the NBA players are overpayed and they go into a lockout even though the NBA makes billions of dollars. They sell out more seats now than they did 20 years ago that's for sure.
Posted by mcpotiger
Missouri
Member since Mar 2005
8234 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 1:58 pm to
good!
Posted by ChiTownBammer
South Florida
Member since Aug 2014
1346 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 2:02 pm to
Call me crazy, but I feel like this was bound to happen with the way the league was set up to begin with, inorganically with no fan support and almost 100 percent subsidization from the NBA. They're finally starting to find some popularity and some revenue streams but the way it's all set up, the money isn't being spread around properly. I wouldn't doubt if they still owe a bunch of money to the NBA. I read somewhere that in a year or two there will be a new TV contract with a dramatic increase in revenue for the league. They may actually need a strike or lockout in order to fix the way they're doing things and get their finances in order.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
39306 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 2:26 pm to
The WNBA will start making money in the 2026 media deals, as the bump in media money far exceeds the annual losses they currently have.

The players - asuming the union deal is for a percentage of revenues - stand to get nice raises as it is.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
83952 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 2:28 pm to
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The WNBA will start making money in the 2026 media deals, as the bump in media money far exceeds the annual losses they currently have.

The players - asuming the union deal is for a percentage of revenues - stand to get nice raises as it is.


wow, a 100% subsidized load of crap that no one really wants to see or gives a shite about, googling the nearest trans doctor
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