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re: With so many kids in private, should system be flush with $?
Posted on 12/5/21 at 7:44 pm to Godzilla
Posted on 12/5/21 at 7:44 pm to Godzilla
Another issue with funding per student is they are too top heavy school systems. A ton of money is eaten up by over priced/valued superintendents, assistant superintendents, directors, coordinators, etc….None of them directly impact any students, and eat up a good amount of the budget.
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Posted on 12/5/21 at 7:50 pm to Nature Boy
the entire public school system needs to be blown up and parents provided vouchers to send their kids to the school of their choosing.
Posted on 12/5/21 at 9:25 pm to tigergirl10
quote:A lot has changed since the the 90's/early 2000's. The school I went to as a kid was great and now it's rated as a D and is majority minority.
Can’t be too bad. I graduated from public school and received a six figure free ride to Loyola and Tulane.
Posted on 12/5/21 at 9:31 pm to Adam Banks
quote:The liberals know that without the St. George tax base, they will end up having to close 2-3 campuses more than likely. They've already taken a beating from the charters.
Let me introduce you to the proposed utopia of st George. Public schools that you can send your kids to and feel like you can actually see the results of your tax dollars.
Posted on 12/5/21 at 9:33 pm to tigergirl10
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how much of an utter failure public education
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I graduated from public school
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by tigergirl10
Posted on 12/5/21 at 10:03 pm to tigergirl10
quote:Not exactly the archetypical “public school”, m’lady.
I graduated from public school
Posted on 12/5/21 at 11:13 pm to Nature Boy
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With so many kids in private, should system be flush with $?
You must be new to Louisiana. Despite schools getting some local taxes, the lion share of school funding comes from the state through something called the minimum foundation program. It is based on a per pupils spending so the fewer the students the less funding each district gets. The rate is set by your friends in the legislature.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 9:08 am to Nature Boy
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Everybody pays the same taxes, yet a huge chunk of the population pays on top of that for private schools.
Most funding for LA public schools come from the state, not from your parish property taxes.
And that state money is allocated via a per pupil formula.
If all the private school kids decided to start going to public school this fall, the state would need to come up with a huge chunk of change to cover that.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 9:16 am to Nature Boy
Imagine paying for private school in EBR Parish so your kids are not subjected to the failure that is the EBR Parish school system. Then imagine that same school, accepting public funding from the state, whilst you still pay high tuition fees. Then imagine the same idiotic policies imposed by the public school system, are imposed on your private school that you were paying to not have to be subjected to that shite.
Welcome to the Catholic School System in Baton Rouge!
Welcome to the Catholic School System in Baton Rouge!
This post was edited on 12/6/21 at 9:18 am
Posted on 12/6/21 at 9:25 am to tigergirl10
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Can’t be too bad. I graduated from public school and received a six figure free ride to Loyola and Tulane.
And yet you still don’t understand what anecdotal evidence is.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 9:28 am to BugAC
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Imagine paying for private school in EBR Parish so your kids are not subjected to the failure that is the EBR Parish school system. Then imagine that same school, accepting public funding from the state, whilst you still pay high tuition fees. Then imagine the same idiotic policies imposed by the public school system, are imposed on your private school that you were paying to not have to be subjected to that shite.
Welcome to the Catholic School System in Baton Rouge!
This is why the "all private schools are better than all public schools" mantra being pushed by this board... is an absolute joke.
There are a significant number of Catholic Schools, especially elementary schools, in the NOLA and BR metro areas that are only allowed to stay open because voucher money is paying the bills.
Those voucher kids have to take LEAP. In many cases... their scores are WORSE than the public school counterparts.
People say public schools teach to the LEAP tests. But what the hell are these crappy Catholic schools teaching?
I'm fine with school choice but let's not pretend a lot of these Catholic elementary schools are worth anything.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 9:57 am to LSUFanHouston
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But what the hell are these crappy Catholic schools teaching?
One of my kids was sent home with a school work sheet about the benefits of vaccines. Ironically, this was not a workbook lesson but obviously something the teacher printed out for them to do.
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I'm fine with school choice but let's not pretend a lot of these Catholic elementary schools are worth anything.
That's the thing. We are paying a lot for this school, but any time some idiot in the EBR public school system shuts down a school, my kid's school follows. Every single covid restriction/limitation/mandate that the public schools followed, my kids school followed. And the most hypocritical part, is when the mask mandates ended, we get a letter from the principal bemoaning the fact that masks are no longer required. Yet, she was the FIRST person to take her mask off when the mandate ended.
They are itching to go back to mandates, and they will ABSOLUTELY follow the public school if Edwards vaccine mandate goes into effect. And when i asked the principal why we are doing all of this, they reply with "well it was the archdiocese decision". They are all simple minded puppets.
This post was edited on 12/6/21 at 9:57 am
Posted on 12/6/21 at 10:36 am to BugAC
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One of my kids was sent home with a school work sheet about the benefits of vaccines. Ironically, this was not a workbook lesson but obviously something the teacher printed out for them to do.
Hopefully at least this was for science class...
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They are itching to go back to mandates, and they will ABSOLUTELY follow the public school if Edwards vaccine mandate goes into effect. And when i asked the principal why we are doing all of this, they reply with "well it was the archdiocese decision".
What a weak group.
Look, if the archdiocese wants masks / vaccines / whatever, why don't they just implement it? Why are they hiding behind the "well we will only do so if the public schools are doing it?" That's pathetic.
Why are you paying for an education that is indistinguishable from the public school one? Is the discipline that bad in your neighborhood public school?
This is a big reason why we pulled our kids from Catholic school 6 years ago and put them in our public schools. The education is similar. My kids are in high/honors classes so they don't really have any discipline issues in their classes. Sure, there are some boneheaded decisions / policies I disagree with, but I disagreed with a lot of the catholic school policies as well.
The money that we are not spending not only on tuition, but the fees and the seemingly daily requests for money... we are saving a lot of it for the kids future and spending the rest of it on giving them meaningful childhood experiences.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 1:07 pm to HarryBalzack
If the Dept of Education were to play the long game, they'd make funding follow performance first and # of students second. Making # of students first encourages mild to zero penalties for disruptive students. Disruptive students cause lower GPA's, teacher turnover and the better/brighter students to seek better (private) schools, making the system worse.
Why do you think private school teachers are willing to accept WAY lower pay and benefits? In most cases it is because they do not want to deal with a classroom full of disruptive, violent and disrespectful kids.
Why do you think private school teachers are willing to accept WAY lower pay and benefits? In most cases it is because they do not want to deal with a classroom full of disruptive, violent and disrespectful kids.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 1:52 pm to Nature Boy
In the suburbs of Atlanta 99% of kids go to public school.
Because of this parents don’t mind tax raises specifically for local schools. In fact every two years we vote on a SPLOST tax that specifically goes to school improvement and it passes every time.
My guess is in LA the money raised by taxes is lower because so many people go to private school and don’t feel the taxes benefit their family.
Because of this parents don’t mind tax raises specifically for local schools. In fact every two years we vote on a SPLOST tax that specifically goes to school improvement and it passes every time.
My guess is in LA the money raised by taxes is lower because so many people go to private school and don’t feel the taxes benefit their family.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 2:01 pm to tigercross
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The people who send their kids to private schools pay the vast majority of taxes in the parish
Absolutely true.
I think private school parents should get some sort of credit for sending their kids private considering the state of EBR schools.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 2:11 pm to johnnyrocket
PUblic school money pays for charter schools. The money paid by EPRPSB is portable to those schools
Posted on 12/6/21 at 2:27 pm to Nature Boy
With Homestead Exemption, a lot of people do not pay property taxes. The rich and medium pay everything for the poor who pay only sales tax and still get big undeserved tax returns for their kids.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 2:56 pm to tigercross
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What? False premise.
The people who send their kids to private schools pay the vast majority of taxes in the parish. The people who send their kids to EBR public school typically pay very little in taxes
Agree completely except magnet schools. Lots of big money libs that will snub their noses at your white flight privilege.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 3:20 pm to idlewatcher
It's a self fulfilling prophecy that can't be fixed. The good students leave because the schools aren't good enough, making the schools worse. There is no condition by which those parents go back to public. It's as big of a waste of money as all the college debt and ruins so many families retirement, but they choose to live where they do anyway. One of the many reasons we moved away from that crap. I'm not spending 750K for some damn high school diplomas (13 years times 4 kids at way too much per year is easily more than that)
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