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re: Will the 28 TOPS requirement keep students in LA?

Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:15 am to
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:15 am to
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Newsflash for all of you morons that scored a 20 on the ACT. A 28 doesn't get you shite for scholarships.


That's incorrect.
Posted by Old Hoss Radbourn
Rayville
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:15 am to
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Is someone with less than a 28 a good student?


Assuming that's a troll
Posted by tigeralum06
Member since Oct 2007
2850 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:15 am to
La tech... thanks for helping me make my point.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:17 am to


please tell me you graduated from LSU

Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36188 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:17 am to
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hat options do they have out of state?

Uh, scholarships to schools in states that have their shot in order, with 29,30, higher
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 7:19 am
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:17 am to
It wasn't a full ride, but I got a decent scholarship for LA Tech. Kept it for 4 years as well as Tops.

Honestly, it was my last year that raked up the most debt
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14774 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:18 am to
My 15 year old sister-in-law who goes to a school out in Livingston parish made a 22 on her first try and not studying.

A 19 isn't good at all.
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 7:18 am
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
98437 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:20 am to
Hopefully
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:21 am to
25 is a reasonable number
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
21170 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:22 am to
This might be a little unreasonable. They just need to up the requirements from "almost retarded" as they are now.

You have to realize, high school has become exponentially easier in recent years because the state implemented a plan where they make a teacher's pay dependent upon how their students do on standardized testing and general testing/GPA. What have teachers done? They make it easier so that they get their good reviews. Of course administration looks the other way because their overall grade goes up.

In 2016, a 2.5 GPA and a 20 on the ACT is below average. No way to deny that. The requirements should be upped to a 3.0 or higher and a 24 or better to qualify for the lowest level of tops IMO. You'll save money and have more motivated kids not dropping out and wasting that money.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
31857 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:23 am to
The students that had gotten a 28 or higher in previous years had the same opportunities out of state that the next ones will have. Many of them still choose to stay at LSU. Without TOPS, LA wouldn't keep any of these higher achieving students.

However, LSU doesn't reward any of its highest achieving in state students (30 or higher on ACT). It rewards out of state students with a 32 or higher with full tuition, room and board, plus $1000 a semester. A friend of mine had the same ACT as me (33), but he was from Georgia, so he was able to pay for everything with the scholarship. I decided to stay at home at LSU and had to pay room and board every year, and it requires me to take out loans. Had I gone to Bama, Georgia, or Florida, I would have received the same scholarship that he received to come to LSU, and I would have no debt right now. Many friends and classmates of mine decided to go out of state instead of staying here

LSU needs to do a better job rewarding it's best students, not just relying on TOPS to cover them
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
23470 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:23 am to
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TOPS was designed in part to keep good students in the state

I have no idea why people keep repeating this. I do not believe that is the case. I don't think people with ACT scores of 20 and a GPA of 2.5 were really a risk to take their talents to Wal Street. I think logic behind TOPS is greater access to college for even average students. Originally po folk and then it was changed to everyone.
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
10839 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:25 am to
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La tech... thanks for helping me make my point.

I hope this is a troll.
Tulane..LSU.LaTech....USL................................................................................................................................................................every other 4 year...................community colleges.....................SUNO........................Delgado
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
67302 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:27 am to
STOP
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
42882 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:27 am to
quote:

quote: Is someone with less than a 28 a good student? Assuming that's a troll


No, serious question. I have not kept up with the ACT scores since I last took the damn thing '07. What percentile would that be for La students. I took the ACT and got a 24 the first time I took the thing. I then switched to taking the SAT so I could go to an Ivy league school. So I was just wondering what a 28 today is considered.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
31857 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:27 am to
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Awesomesauce

Tulane isn't better than LSU, it's just more expensive
Posted by tke857
Member since Jan 2012
12195 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:27 am to
in state tuition is still cheaper than out of state so they will probably have to stay in state but come out of school with student loan debt
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
21170 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:28 am to
Newsflash for all of you morons that scored a 20 on the ACT. A 28 doesn't get you shite for scholarships. You have to have over a 30 before decent schools start handing out money.

A 29 / 3.8 GPA got me a full ride to ULL plus TOPS honors in 2003. I made money going to school since I didn't stay in the dorms or get a meal plan.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41861 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:28 am to
yeah, doenst LSU "rank" better than any other school in the state?
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
98437 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:31 am to
Whatever number prevents a tax increase
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